What happened to Jill Meagher? Raped and Murdered by blue hoody guy Adrian Bailey


This bloke is one dirty dog with plenty of form, including sexual violence! I have started a new thread based on his arrest, charges and beyond today for discussion moving forward… here is the link

Update – alleged rapist and killer leads police to shallow grave this morning

September 28, 2012 6:31AM

Jill Meagher’s body found, Adrian Ernest Bayley, charged

Adrian Ernest Bayley has been charged with the rape and murder of Jill Meagher, her body was found 50km away from Melbourne. This is an image of the despicable mongrel dog found on facebook!

Adrian Ernest Bayley, 41, was remanded at an out-of-sessions court hearing shortly before 3am that lasted only 90 seconds at St Kilda Road Police Station

With this disgusting crime there are more than one victim, my personal apologies and thoughts go to Tom Meagher, the husband of Jill, who had to endure the scrutiny and suspicion of being a suspect in her disappearance from early on in the investigation.

It is the first place they go looking when a partner disappears, the police the media the social media. Random Opportunistic crimes of this nature in Australia very rarely happen like this in the city, if anywhere.

How wrong a lot of us were this time. Robbo

THE Coroner has removed the body of Jill Meagher from a shallow grave near a remote road about 50km northwest of Melbourne.

Police made the discovery early this morning on Black Hill Road at Gisborne South, about 15 minutes drive from the Calder Freeway.

Coroners remove the body of Jill Meagher from a shallow grave near Black Hill Road, 50km northwest of Melbourne.

The body was in a shallow grave near a tree about five metres from Black Hill Road.

The Coroners Office put the body into a white van just before 4am after detectives finished their five-hour investigation of the scene.

An autopsy will be conducted today.

Police say they were led to the scene by the man charged with the murder and rape of Ms Meagher.

Adrian Ernest Bayley, 41, was remanded at an out-of-sessions court hearing shortly before 3am that lasted only 90 seconds at St Kilda Road Police Station.

The bail justice told Bayley he should not be given bail given the seriousness of the charges against him.

She asked him whether he understood the charges, to which he replied a simple “yes”.

Asked whether he wanted the charges read to him, the accused said “no”.

The accused wore a blue T-shirt, jeans and red-and-black Nike runners and showed no emotion as he sat with his chin in his hand.

Police will allege Bayley raped and murdered Ms Meagher on the morning of September 22 in Brunswick.

He will appear at Melbourne Magistrates’ Court later today.

This morning’s events came after police swooped on the suspect’s Coburg home at 2.30pm and took him to the St Kilda Rd Police Complex where he was interviewed.

Police will allege he is the man seen on CCTV wearing a blue hoodie top and talking to Ms Meagher on Sydney Rd early on Saturday Rd moments before she vanished.

UPDATE TONIGHT 7PM 27/09/12

31 yr correction 41 yr old man from Coburg has been arrested in relation to Jill’s disappearance- More to come

POLICE have arrested a man over the disappearance of missing woman Jill Meagher.

A 41-year-old Coburg man will be charged with her abduction and murder.

Police swooped on the man late today at his home and took him to the St Kilda Rd Police Complex where he was being interviewed. No charges have yet been laid.

The Herald Sun has been told police have no other suspects and it was allegedly an opportunistic crime.

His arrest by the homicide squad missing persons unit came a day after police released CCTV video of a man wearing a hoodie, who was seen talking to Ms Meagher, 29, at 1.43am on Saturday as she walked home.

Police have not said if the man who has been arrested is the person in the hoodie.

Ms Meagher’s brother, Michael McKeon, was overwhelmed when told of the arrest. Police fear Ms Meagher was abducted while making the short walk home from a Sydney Rd bar in Brunswick.

This sad situation is becoming more mysterious and sinister as each day passes

UPDATE MIDDAY 27/09/12

THE CCTV footage video makes for some interesting new possibilities, the end result is what is important no matter how police get to it. One person in the video has already come forard and provided a statement. Others are urged to do the same as reports of new CCTV has been made available.

Here is a interactive map of the Bridal Boutique from which the current CCTV footage came from (I hope it works)

Also someone sent me this video, which shows the path Jill may have taken with all the info available.

The walk from where Jill Meagher was seen on CCTV to her home

A video walk from the last confirmed sighting of missing Brunswick woman, Jill Meagher, down Sydney Road onto Hope Street, the lane where her handbag was found on Monday morning and to her home on Lux Way. Note: the purpose of the video is to show the distance and landmarks on this route only. It is no way implying that this is route Jill took in the early morning of September 22, 2012. For those of you in Brunswick and familiar with the area, this is not made for you. Rather, this video is made for those not familiar with the area- By Matt Mitchell

Update 11.55am 26/09/12

POLICE have confirmed that they will release “relevant” CCTV footage into the disappearance of Jill Meagher today. Says a lot, very selective in what they are releasing

Homicide Squad Det-Insp John Potter said the footage would be released after he provides an update on Ms Meagher’s disappearance at a press conference at 1pm. Will post video on completion folks

Update 10.30am 26/09/12

‘Mystery man captured on CCTV’ on morning Jill Meagher disappeared

THE image of a mystery man who could be following Jill Meagher is being analysed by police investigating the ABC employee’s disappearance, according to reports.

Missing woman Jill Meagher in a picture from her Facebook page

Police twice search Jill Meagher’s home

Hunt for Jill intensifies

Detectives at Jill’s home

A man was pictured in the same frame of CCTV footage with Ms Meagher on the morning she disappeared, and police will decide whether the image of that man will be released today, 3AW reported this morning.

Homicide detectives spent five hours in total inside the Melbourne home of the missing woman yesterday, leaving at 8.20pm with filled brown paper bags.

The search for clues continued after the last known moments of Ms Meagher were recovered, with crucial CCTV images showing the Irish national just minutes from home in the city’s inner north.

A time stamp on the footage places Ms Meagher, 29, walking north on Sydney Rd in Brunswick less than 100m before Hope St, where her bag was found just around the corner.
As the probe enters its fifth day, the homicide squad’s Detective Inspector John Potter said they did not have a suspect but it was odd there was no evidence of a struggle in Hope St, where her bag was found in a laneway.

update 4.20pm 25/09/12

UPDATE: MISSING person Jill Meagher has been captured on CCTV in the early hours of Saturday morning, police revealed this afternoon.

Homicide Squad detectives said the footage shows Jill walking north along Sydney Rd, Brunswick, just south of Hope Street, at 1.41am.

update 3.30pm 25/09/12

BREAKING Police have removed bags full of potential evidence from the apartment of Tom and Jill Meagher

Police have removed bags full of potential evidence from the apartment of Tom and Jill Meagher

September 25, 2012 11:58AM

Jill Meagher, 29, was last seen leaving Brunswick’s Bar Etiquette about 1.30am on Saturday

Jill Meagher, 29, was last seen leaving Brunswick’s Bar Etiquette about 1.30am on Saturday

UPDATE: POLICE are probing whether missing woman Jill Meagher’s handbag was planted as a decoy to distract the investigation.

Meagher outside the Brunswick Police station amid the search for his wife Jill.

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Ms Meagher, 29, failed to arrive home following a five-minute walk from Bar Etiquette to her Lux Way apartment after leaving a friend in Sydney Rd, Brunswick, early Saturday.

Questions about the handbag have emerged as more than 60 calls were made to Crime Stoppers about the disappearance of the Irish-born woman, with other women reporting abduction attempts in the vicinity of where the ABC worker vanished from Melbourne’s inner-north.

Police today are examining the calls prompted by pleas for information about the case.

Homicide Squad Det-Insp John Potter, who is spearheading the investigation, told the Herald Sun it was odd that a police search of the area on the weekend which “left no stone unturned” had failed to locate the handbag, which police were alerted to early yesterday.

“On Sunday police conducted a full line search up and around Hope St,” he said.

“There’s two options – the original search found nothing and then on Monday the bag was found by a local resident.

Police find items of missing woman

Police say they’ve found items they believe to belong to an ABC radio employee who disappeared in Melbourne.

“You’ve got to ask which is true.”

He said the bag was found in a “clearly visible” spot on the ground in a laneway off Hope St.

“We’ve got to look at the possibility of the bag being placed there late on Sunday or early Monday morning,” he said.

He said the bag’s contents had been untouched, except for Ms Meagher’s mobile phone which was missing.

“Her cards and the other contents were still inside. She hasn’t accessed the bank or anything like that,” he said.

He said questions raised surrounding the discovery of the bag had prompted investigators to re-examine whether Ms Meagher had even left Sydney Rd in Brunswick the night she disappeared.

“One would now argue that we don’t know for sure if she actually walked up Hope St,” he said.

“We don’t know whether she made it that far.

“We hold grave concerns for Jill’s welfare – the fact the bag was discovered so close to home and the fact this disappearance is totally out of character for her.”

Insp Potter said it was now thought that Ms Meagher left Bar Etiquette after 1.30am, and it was unclear whether she left with by herself, with others, or got into a car.

No CCTV footage was available from Bar Etiquette, making it harder for police to piece together her night.

Det-Insp Potter urged any patrons of Bar Etiquette in Sydney Rd to contact Crime Stoppers immediately as they could “hold the key” to establishing a detailed timeline of Ms Meagher’s movements before she disappeared.

CCTV examined as cops probe more kidnap fears

Insp Potter said police would also continue to review CCTV footage from nearby businesses.

The spike in reported abductions and kidnappings comes as Ms Meagher’s family made desperate pleas for her return.

Ms Meagher’s mother, Edith McKeon said her daughter would have fought any attacker.

“Whoever (has her) just let her go, let her (go),” she said.

“Even though she’s tiny I think she would have fought.”

Insp Potter said police were investigating claims women have been followed by a car in the same area that Ms Meagher disappeared.

“Some of them (the claims) have not been reported to police and we need those people to contact us,” he said.

The calls come as messages of support continue to be posted on a Facebook page dedicated to finding the Irish national. Help us find Jill Meagher has more than 50,000 likes.

Brunswick nightlife attracts hipster crowd

The desperate search for Ms Meagher comes as Victoria Police figures show reported abduction and kidnap offences have skyrocketed in the region, up from 226 in the previous financial year to 291, a rise of 28.8 per cent.

There were 611 offences recorded in this category in 2011-2012, and 159 of those occurred on the street.

has also been posted on the Facebook page.

Official reports show:

ON June 24, a 34-year old woman reported that she was attacked on Albert St in the early hours.

ON May 6, a man attempted to abduct a woman as she walked along Mitchell St towards Sydney Rd.

The man covered the woman’s mouth and forced her to the ground but she was able to fight him off. Police believe he threw kerosene in the woman’s face before he fled.

IN July 2010, a 29-year-old woman walking her dog through Gilpin Park was struck on the head, dragged and thrown to the ground before a man attempted to sexually assault her at knifepoint.

 Charlie Bezzina examines the scene

IN January that year a 13-year-old girl was assaulted by a man behind a church on Saxon St after being lured from Sydney Rd.

Police fear the ABC staffer has met with foul play.

Insp Potter said Ms Meagher’s will be forensically examined.

ABC fear for colleague

“I think there is always concern for the community when something like this happens,” Insp Potter said.

“The biggest problem is we don’t know what has happened to Jill so I would say people should be cautious when walking along the street at night.”

Insp Potter said somebody must know what happened to Ms Meagher.

“It’s not too late to tell us or indeed if Jill can hear this, please contact us,” he said.

Delays hamper police inquiry

In a heartfelt plea, her husband, Thomas, said he was going through “hell” with only hope keeping him going. “It’s just devastating,” he said.

“I just hope somebody saw something or she will just walk through the door.”

Hoping for a clue on Jill’s path

He said he couldn’t allow himself to believe his wife was no longer alive.

Mr Meagher has appealed for help from the public using Facebook and flyers posted around the area.

“I just want as much out there as possible,” he said.

“It’s Friday night on Sydney Rd, it’s busy – people have to have seen something. Somebody has to have seen Jill at some stage.

“I just want people to really think if they’ve seen anything at all.”

Mr Meagher rejected suggestions his wife was going through any personal problems.

Brother Michael McKeon, who arrived from Perth on Sunday, said Ms Meagher phoned him about 1.45am on Saturday to check on their father, who recently had a stroke.

“I suppose I was the last one to talk to her,” he said.

“She was just calling to see how things were. She hung up and she just sounded a little worried.

“I called back a few times and she never answered.

“It sounded like she was on her way home.”

Mr McKeon described his sister as happy-go-lucky, fun-loving and always positive.

“It’s not like her at all,” he said.

“She always does what she says she is going to do.”

Speaking of his parents, he said: “They’re just distraught and worried and just hoping for the best.”

Jill is described as being of a fair complexion, 165cm tall, slim build, long curly black hair and brown eyes.

She was wearing a blue dress, black jacket, black patterned stockings and high heels.

WHAT a difference a day makes to a homicide investigation.

On Monday the police hunt for the missing Jill Meagher concentrated on streets she might have used to walk home from a Sydney Rd bar in the small hours of Saturday morning.

Police ran crime scene tape across half a dozen streets and lanes in one seedy light-industrial block, apparently spurred on by the discovery of her handbag in a narrow side street early on Monday.

But by yesterday morning things had changed.

None other than the chief commissioner cast doubt on whether it was Ms Meagher who dropped the bag the night she vanished.

Chief Commissioner Ken Lay hinted the bag might have been “planted” by an unknown offender in an attempt to distract investigators – who, he said, had already searched the area where the bag turned up.
But the homicide rulebook states that before widening the search, detectives first have to eliminate the people closest to the missing person.

That means the proud young man, photographed with his bride in the good times they shared, now has to endure the routine procedure of being treated like a potential suspect.

Within three hours of the chief’s cryptic statement, the search had swung from the mean streets where the bag was found to the nearby modern apartment block where Thomas and Jill Meagher have lived for about a year.

Just after midday two homicide detectives had returned to the Meaghers’ first-floor apartment to run the worried young husband once more through the exact sequence of events in the hours his wife vanished.

Then the cavalry arrived.

Two vans parked on a nearby council reserve. In them was a team of four forensic crime scene analysts, dressed head to toe in blue protective clothing and carrying a pile of oversize empty paper bags.

They, too, trooped upstairs into the rear apartment on the first floor.

They did not use the lift that takes residents and their shopping or luggage up and down from the ground-floor internal carpark enclosed under the three residential floors.

The apartment was so full of forensic specialists looking for clues that Tom Meagher and his wife’s brother Michael McKeon had to sit outside on the balcony at the rear.

For more than two hours the pair sat in glum silence, fiddling with their mobile telephones. They were joined at one point by a female detective wearing rubber gloves.

Mr Meagher was showing the strain of four days of hell. He appeared not to have shaved since the weekend and his eyes were red.

Earlier, before the forensic team started combing the apartment, he and his brother-in-law had put on a brave face by laughing and joking with camera crews outside the apartments.

There was no joking by 4pm when the forensic team finally emerged with half a dozen brown paper bags, all full.

Police said no evidence was taken from the flat, but it looked as if a lot of material had been removed for testing at the forensic laboratories at Macleod, which has hi-tech equipment to test DNA and fingerprints.

Early in the day, Tom Meagher told the Herald Sun he would consider talking about his ordeal.

But he later got in touch to say he would be too busy going through some details with the police.

While investigators combed the Meaghers’ apartment yesterday, their colleagues pinpointed security camera footage of Jill Meagher taken at 1.41am on Saturday morning in Sydney Rd, just south of Hope St.

This tallies with information from the staff at Bar Etiquette, the fashionable nightspot where the beautiful and popular young Irishwoman had a last drink after a long night out with colleagues from the ABC radio studios in Southbank.

Bar Etiquette staff stopped serving and locked the door to new customers at 1am.

But it let existing customers out over the following half hour or so.

It seems beyond doubt Ms Meagher left the bar just after 1.30am and walked north up Sydney Rd, apparently alone. She had earlier told work colleague Tom Wright she was happy to walk home alone after he twice offered to escort her.

Sometime after that, she vanished.

The investigation is continuing.

ANALYSIS: THE Investigator Charlie Bezzina examines the scene where ABC radio worker Jill Meagher went missing.

As an investigator I’m scratching my head.

The first thing you do is to ask yourself why someone would pick Jill out.

If in fact foul play is involved, it is still possible she may well still emerge safe and sound and we hope that is the case.

Something isn’t quite right to me. If it’s a robbery, they take the bag and go. Why take the victim?

Looking around the scene, it’s a very good spot to launch an attack or assault or abduction.

More pictures from the search scene

Its industrial and there’s not people living here, even though it’s near Sydney Rd.

The lighting is poor.

I suspect everyone until I can rule them out of the investigation.

And there are some crazy people whose behaviour you just can predict.

She had her ATM card but there is no facility for police to check her card movement – we have to wait until business hours Monday.

You are in the hands of the corporate world.

It’s so crucial to investigators but we just don’t have that clout. Police and crime happen 24 hours a day seven days a week and it’s a problem for investigators that we can’t do it.

Your chances of solving a case are best in the first 24 hours. It’s now been more than 48 hours.

I’m surprised they didn’t conduct a line search sooner. The line search will indicate any evidence, including forensic.

They would be looking for blood, anything that will indicate a crime has been committed.

With missing persons, you need to do things early to get the evidence. Time is of the essence. It’s critical to make an assessment early in the piece if it is serious.

There might be reasons for it, but my usual process would be a line search along the route.

Only about 50-60m is cordoned off, but widening it would include searching drains, rooftops, front yards.

If she was hurt, you’d think she would have been found.

Getting someone to go somewhere against their will is not easy, and would need a car.

Someone else might have been leaving at the same time and followed her from the bar, so its important to track down people who were at the bar at the same time.

You have to open up your mind to looking at any criminal reports in that area – there may have been reports of attempted abductions, burglaries, peeping toms.

I’d be going to all the local bars to ask regulars if they saw anything. People often won’t come to you so you need to go to them.

I’d suggest flooding the area next Friday night and saturate the area around midnight, talking to people who may have been out at the same time the week before.

You never write off that someone may have simply left. It would still be open that she may have gone missing by choice.

That’s why you speak to neighbours, including at previous addresses. We need to get to know the victim.

The handbag being found doesn’t really add much to the picture – it may have been planted there, it may have been discarded there on purpose or fallen accidentally.

The area is an industrial area and would be very quiet at that time of the morning

There would have been activity alone Sydney rd., but once she turns off that, it’s quiet

If we take it it’s an abduction, they are very rare.

Homicide would come out to oversee things as its not clear as yet whether it is a homicide or not.

Someone may have been infatuated with her, stalked her. Is it opportunity, or planned?

Ms Meagher’s brother, Michael McKeon, believes he was the last person to speak to her.

Mr McKeon, who arrived from Perth yesterday, said Ms Meagher called him in the early hours of Saturday to check on their father who recently had a stroke. He believes she called at about 1.45am.

“She was just calling to see how things were,” Mr McKeon said.

“She hung up and just sounded a little worried.

“It sounded like she was on her way home.

“I called back a few times and she never answered.”

Mr McKeon described his sister as happy go lucky, fun loving and always positive.

“It’s not like her at all,” he said.

“She always does what she says she is going to do.”

It is now more than 48 hours since Ms Meagher was last seen after mysteriously vanishing following a night out with work friends.

Ms Meagher had been drinking for several hours at The Brunswick Green bar on Sydney Rd before catching a final drink at nearby Bar Etiquette, where she was a regular.

Police will door knock in Melbourne’s north today as the hunt for the 29-year-old, who works as a unit coordinator with ABC radio, intensifies.

She insisted that she wanted to walk home alone, a friend has revealed.

Her distraught husband, Thomas, is still holding out hope his wife will walk through the door safe and well.

Mr Meagher said he was going through hell as he anxiously waited for news about his wife.

“I’m just trying to push on,” he said.

“I just hope somebody saw something or she will just walk through the door.”

He said he couldn’t allow himself to believe his wife was no longer alive.

Mr Meagher has appealed for help from the public using Facebook and flyers posted around the area.

“Friday night on Sydney Rd it’s busy – people have to have seen something,” he said.

“Somebody has to have seen Jill at some stage.”

Mr Meagher told 3AW radio station this morning that he rang his wife’s mobile phone “non-stop” from 2am to 6am on Saturday with no success.

He also went out looking for her at about 5am.

“Her phone has gone flat,” he said.

Det Acting Sgt Steve Bull said police were treating the disappearance of Ms Meagher very seriously.

“We have concerns for her safety. This is totally out of character for Jill and we just haven’t been able to find her,” he said.

Phone records which could shed vital clues into the disappearance of Ms Meagher are due to be retrieved today.

ABC Local Radio has released a statement about the disappearance of Ms Meagher.

“Friends and colleagues of Jill Meagher are saddened and concerned by the news of Jill’s disappearance,” the statement said.

“Jill is the Unit Coordinator of Local Radio Victoria. She is a highly valued and much loved member of the Local Radio team.

“Our thoughts are will Jill’s family and friends during this very difficult time.”

ABC colleagues also told of their distress today.

“Jill works with us here at 774 ABC Melbourne. She is our unit manager. She keeps the place running. She is a delightful colleague and it’s impossible to imagine that something bad may have happened,” 774 host Jon Faine said.

Reporter Rochelle Hunt said Ms Meagher’s disapperance “was one of the most difficult stories any of us at the ABC has had to try and cover”.

“Jill is a dear friend and colleague of ours and hasn’t been seen since Saturday morning,” Ms Hunt said.

“I know everyone at the ABC is absolutely distraught at the moment.”

Another ABC colleague, Tom Wright, told the Herald Sun he was the last person to see Ms Meagher.

Mr Wright offered to walk her home, but she declined.

“I said, ‘can I walk you home?’, because it’s late at night, and she said: ‘No, no I live around here, I know it really well, don’t worry’. I said goodbye and I said, ‘really, you don’t want me to walk you home?’, and she said: ‘No, no, no’,” Mr Wright said.

An Irish cousin of Ms Meagher’s said that her family is “desperate” for information on her whereabouts.

The cousin, who didn’t wish to be named, told the Herald Sun that Ms Meagher’s parents were “distraught” at hearing of their daughter’s disappearance and were hoping that police would be able to uncover more details by examining CCTV footage.

“My mother has been speaking with her mum and dad in Perth and they really just feel as if their hands are tied,” he said.

“Her brother has travelled from Perth to Melbourne but they are all just waiting to get more information from police.”

The man said that Ms Meagher’s family, which includes relatives in Spain and England, continued to be baffled by her mysterious disappearance.

“As far as we know she was out with colleagues and she was very close to her home when she went missing,” he said.

“That’s what’s killing us.”

The cousin, who last saw Ms Meagher when she visited Ireland last year, described her as a “bubbly” person with a “big time happy-go-lucky” outlook on life.

He said that they had stayed in touch via Facebook and occasional visits since she moved to Australia from her home town of Drogheda on Ireland’s east coast.

He said Ms Meagher’s disappearance was “all over” the Irish national news.

He is now helping to support a social media campaign spearheaded by Ms Meagher’s husband, which is already being followed by Irish celebrities including pop-group Westlife

Ms Meagher, who moved to Australia from Ireland three years ago, had been drinking with work friends from ABC radio and lived a short walk from the bar.

Mr Meagher said he was “freaking out”.

“She didn’t take her purse out, so she didn’t have any identification or anything on her other than her bank card,” he said yesterday.

“We’ve checked with all the hospitals, but I think that someone has done something to her.

“I fear that because it’s not something she would do without contacting anybody.”

Mr Wright said Ms Meagher had expressed some anxiety about her job, but otherwise seemed upbeat.

“She said to me she was having some sort of mid-life crisis – she didn’t really expand on it,” he said.

“There was nothing to suggest disappearing as abruptly as she did.”

Mr Wright said he was riddled with guilt about not taking her home.

Although she was captured on CCTV in at least one bar, the vision has not helped the investigation, police said.

“We still have more to review, but we’re hoping someone may have seen her and can shed a bit further light on what her movements might have been,” a spokesman said.

A Facebook page has been set up and people are sending Ms Meagher’s image to other networking sites in the that hope someone comes forward with information.

Colleagues, friends and relatives have also put out appeals for public help on Twitter, using the hashtag #JillMeagher

Ms Meagher is described as being of a fair complexion, 165cm tall, slim build, long curly black hair and brown eyes.

She was wearing a blue dress, black jacket, black patterned stockings and high heels.

Anyone with information on Ms Meagher should contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

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783 thoughts on “What happened to Jill Meagher? Raped and Murdered by blue hoody guy Adrian Bailey

  1. Siege, police also place priority on the nearest to the victim initially. Why so angry when posters follow suit and use other crimes as their yardstick ? Think the police will start a Sorry Tom thread?

    Most people right now are feeling depressed about what JM (and her family and friends) must be going through and about what JM herself went through. You alone seem to be simmering with rage — and against other posters of all things

    Me, I’m filled with rage about sub-human loser scum who go out of their way to destroy what they know they can never otherwise have. Blue Hoody guy (if he’s guilty) could never in a million years hope to have a relationship with a woman like JM. That’s the source of *their* rage. And like animals they hunt down and are turned on by people’s vulnerability. Give me a gun or needle or gas supply and I’d put those bastards down myself without a blink. I’m filled with rage about the damage they inflict and the creeps who defend and excuse them. I’m filled with sadness that JM was most likely robbed of her dignity and life by those not fit to lick her shoes. I certainly am not angry with those who suspected — based on statistics and endless crimes by males against the women closest to them — that the husband may have been involved. Seven times or more out of ten, the posters who suspected the husband would have been correct. So why are you playing righteous in this case and using it in an attempt to create guilt within your fellow posters?

    • Yes BB , if this person is found guilty I too would have no hesitation in inflicting his demise … we cant change what has occured but we can assure he never again gets the opportunity to harm innocent folk.

    • Well said BB. And Mafeking, do you want brownie points for constantly reminding us that you are closer to the GBC case than anyone thinks? Some things are best left unsaid. If you need to big note yourself on a blog then it says a lot about you. Where’s your rage over the scummy dog who killed Jill? Your rage is misplaced.

  2. From ‘The Age’ at 7.56pm:
    POLICE have arrested a 41-year-old Coburg man — the same man wearing the blue hoodie seen in CCTV footage — over with the disappearance of missing ABC employee Jill Meagher.
    No charges have yet been laid.
    Police said it was an opportunistic random attack.

    A Victoria Police spokeswoman confirmed a man had been arrested this afternoon and is currently being interviewed by police at the St Kilda Road police complex.
    Advertisement
    The Age believes the man is refusing to co-operate with police.
    The 29-year-old Irish-born woman has not been sighted since disappearing at about 1.40am on Saturday after leaving Bar Etiquette in Sydney Road Brunswick, having to walk home a mere 700 metres.
    Police have not found Ms Meagher’s body.
    “It is a full-on homicide investigation,” a police source said.
    In Perth, Ms Meagher’s parents, George and Edith McKeon, learned about the arrest just before the police made the announcement publicly from their son, Michael, who has been in Melbourne since last Saturday. They didn’t wish to comment but are waiting for further updates from police.
    A police caravan had been set up near the corner of Sydney Road and Hope Street, close to where Ms Meagher was last seen on CCTV footage speaking with the unknown man in the blue hoodie outside a bridal dress store.
    Five others were captured on the footage walking past, but one of them has since come forward to be interviewed by police about the hoodied man.
    There appears to be no relationship between the victim and the man arrested.
    It is believed that he has no serious criminal history.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/man-arrested-over-jill-meagher-case-20120927-26nu7.html#ixzz27fFd7YPz

  3. The people who know Jill must be in terrible shock right now. i can’t imagine having to go through this with someone I love. I hope this guy chooses to cooperate with the police so these people can have some closure.

    • You’re much more considerate of the suspect’s rights than I, Pris. I find it galling that the suspect is availaing himself of his ‘right’ not to cooperate with police, after allegedly denying JM her right to live, to enjoy her life as she chose, to make her way home unmolested. Think I’d better take myself off for a while. At the moment I’d like to deny the suspect the right to have eyeballs unless he began telling police where JM is and if she’s alive or dead

  4. Yes, of course condolences to the family…but let’s not disappoint them with “weak justice ” should this individual be found guilty. It’s time for “tough responsibility and accountability.”

    Our judicial system has become a laughing stock and the criminals are playing us like fools. Time to stand up folks and say “what about justice and a sense of retribution for the victims and their families?”

  5. Latest news – a 41 year old man is being questioned re Jill but is being un co-operative.
    He is the man in the blue hoodie. I do hope that some news comes soon. The poor family are going through hell.

    • Shame we’ve become so civilized, otherwise the husband and brother of the family would be provided a room in which to extract from the suspect the circumstances surrounding JM’s disappearance in his close proximity

  6. To all you who were quick to blame the husband. I do hope one day that something as tragic as this happens to one of your family members and you are the main suspect and see how you feel.

    • What a nasty and totally unnecessary comment

      Grabbing whatever bit of leverage you can, obviously, to taste for one brief second a sensation of ‘powah’

      Run away

      • I think the comments blaming the husband are unnecessary, but they still happen. We’re only here for entertainment, nothing more, no one wants to know the truth, they want the husband to have done it, it’s more entertaining to read then!

        • Sounds as if you’re transferring your own issues onto the threads posters en masse

          You make chip on shoulder comments such as ‘ they want the husband to have done it’

          You’re the same individual who stated above how you hoped people would suffer the sort of loss currently being experienced by JM’s loved ones, aren’t you ? That’s a disgusting and mentally unbalanced thing to say under ANY circumstance, so solve your own problems first and foremost would be my advice — which won’t leave you any time at all to use this forum to vent your personal angst against the world

        • Speak for yourself. I found the husbands behaviour odd & I (& others) questioned whether he may have been involved. I don’t think it’s more entertaining to read that the husband did it, I’m glad he didn’t do it. I can’t imagine the horror he has and continues to go through. It is a bit harsh to hope that something tragic happens to someones family members though

          • Steve’s a wanker, ingore him. Did anyone else see the image of hoodie man in the back of the police car and notice he had a wedding ring on? It seems there may be another wife/family that will be victims here if he is the offender.

      • Yes BB. It was the comment Mafeking was itching to say about GBC and didn’t get the chance. I see no reason to apologise for having an opinion about the husband. Statistics tell us that it is almost always the spouse in these kinds of disappearances or murders. The police suspect a spouse straight off and it seemed they thought it was the spouse in Jill’s disappearance.

        • Ozmosis — the ‘mens lobby’ loses little opportunity to gain traction, using online fora as their free media

          They must be having orgasms right now courtesy of hoody guy

          Gee, they don’t give a damn about the woman at the centre of this atrocity. They just grab any opportunity they can to vent their swollen spleens (which were caused in the first instance because the law forces them to pay a pittance in support of their OWN children, their own flesh and blood. Misogynists united believe it their ‘right’ to impregnate women then desert them, thus dooming them to a lifetime of poverty and misery while they … Misogynists United — comisserate with each other online about Demon Women

          They froth at the jaws any time a man is found guilty of mistreating women and children, let alone guilty of murdering their wives. So this is, ironically, like Christmas for them, the fact that hoody guy and not the husband is now prime suspect

          What an unworthy, disgraceful thing for Misogynists United to celebrate, huh ?

          The fact they rush in here to focus on which male is to blame says it all

          Where is their sympathy and outrage on the victim’s behalf ?

          No, they simply want to rub people’s noses in it because some people suspected the wrong man

          I’ve lost hope in this world

          • Regardless a MAN did this to a WOMAN! I learned in my teens that it was not safe for me to travel alone. I was followed home after departing a train one morning, after a night out. The man was watching me on a train, before he got off and followed me to the bottom of my street, I hid in bushes in front of a neighbours house, while he looked about to see where I had gone. Again at a train station, in the evening a man waits on the platform till everyone departs, I am waiting for my boyfriend to come on the next train, looking around, he approaches me and asks me what time the next train comes, the way he looks at me the hairs stand on the back of my neck…I feel he’s going to grab me, I run as fast as I can from the platform, 5 or 10 minutes later he is driving past me slowly, he is in the passenger seat looking at me while another man is in the drivers seat, I run till I get to a safer, more populated and well lit spot. Later I hear in the media that there are a couple of assaults on women at that train station. I feel guilty for not reporting it. The drawing of the man matches the same description. Women go through this and they don’t report it all the time. Why the silence? There is truth to the fact that police do not take these types of reports from women seriously. I think you unfortunately have to be missing or found dead before it is taken seriously.

            I am no longer in my teens or twenties anymore and I know most women have had experiences like this…

            It is heartbreaking when you hear about women that are unlucky and don’t get away with their lives.

            Right now I feel so sad for her family and friends. Any life lost is a terrible tragedy.

        • How do you think Tom would have felt reading the comments on here, only asking those who jump to conclusions to have a little dose of medicine for themseves. Put yourself in Tom Meagher’s shoes for a minute

          • WTF Steve? You would have to be living under a rock not to know that the first suspect in a murder is a spouse or family member. Par for the course. If I had a partner and he got murdered or disappeared then I would fully expect to be a suspect in the police’s eyes and the general community. I can’t see you or a few others publicly ripping the Vic police a new one. And you won’t because you all only have the balls to do it anonymously on a little blog. I don’t know what you hope to gain. I didn’t see you jumping all over the media for headlines like “police search JM’s house for a second time in 2 days”. Goes on to say they were there for hours and came out with a number of bags of “evidence”. Define evidence: The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. Now why would the police do that?

        • You have no clue. You are more Mrs Kravitz (from Bewitched) than Sherlock Holmes. To compare the process on here to that of a police investigation is drawing a long bow at best. Perhaps your time can be spent more productively elsewhere.

          Yes, accuse an innocent husband of murdering his wife….no reason to apologise at all? It defies all credibility.

          And re GBC, I shall refrain from detailed comment but suffice to say I am a lot closer to the case than anyone here, including you.And I continue to be. Your assumption about my “itching” is way off the mark. In fact, polar opposites to my thoughts. But I wont ask for an apology. I shall refrain any such request to people and matters of relevance. .

    • Steve – what a nasty piece of work you are, wishing such tragedy upon anybody.

      The people who posted here did so out of concern for Jill and in an attempt to piece together bits of a puzzle in the hope of an outcome one way or another.

      You should be ashamed of your comment, And prepared to apologise for your shameful words.

    • My daugher was missing just for one night and it was agonising! I wouldn’t wish that experience on anyone! However, ppl should think before they post. Unlike other ppl on this thread, I didn’t find his behaviour odd. Grief and shock have different effects on different ppl. Body language alone is not enough to draw a firm conclusion. Tom was thoroughly checked out and cleared by the police, yet ppl still wanted to accuse and suspect him. It would’ve been hard enough enduring the stress of your wife disappearing without ppl with little knowledge of the situation or him as a person pointing the finger. This sort of public speculation would’ve just added to the horror he was going thru. For me, I had only to look in his eyes during interviews to see the shock, confusion and distress he was feeling. I hope Tom gets thru this with the help of ppl who know him and have faith in him. RIP Jill <3

      • Í know it’s easy for me to say but if my spouse was missing, I couldn’t care less what people thought of me, all I would care about is finding them.

      • Totally agree, I found the posters who immediately jumped on poor Tom Meagher as the murderer quite sickening. How can anyone possibly know how someone would react to such a horrifying situation. Never thought for a moment it was him and obviously the Policy have set procedures they have to work through, anyone with half a brain would know that. God bless poor Jill.

        • And anyone with half a brain could see police can and do suspect a spouse immediately. They are on the spot, they read body language, they hear the same old stories all time. She went for a walk and didn’t come back, she didn’t come home from work blah blah. We are not privy to what they notice at that first contact with family, that one thing that sets of the BS radar. Eliminating a person as suspect means exactly that. They think someone is a suspect and go through certain procedures until they are fairly convinced one way or the other. You don’t think it unusual that the attention on the husband only changed when CCTV footage was obtained?

  7. I too am disappointed at how quickly the husband was blamed. He willingly spoke with the media, invited the police into his flat, shed a few tears while “manfully” trying to keep his composure and was obviously sleep deprived. If I had been out with work colleagues till 2am my husband would not have known the numbers to ring and he too would have rung and gone out lookiing. It must be a simply awful situation to have your spouse disappear and while you are desperately trying to hold yourself together and help as much as you can realise that you are a prime suspect simply because you are the spouse.

    • It could have gone either way. If the husband had been shown to be guilty, people would be saying how they could tell from the way he conducted himself, spoke with the media, etc.

      As it turns out, we seem to have a prime suspect in hoody guy, based largely on fortuitous cctv from the bridal shop

      If that cctv hadn’t come to light, the spotlight would have remained on the spouse, which is where the police invested considerable energy, based on their methods of beginning at the centre and widening the net

      So those who suspected the husband were simply echoing the police and the police methodology is based in long experience and statistics which show that most are harmed/killed by close associates

      Incidentally, I didn’t suspect the husband. I had no clear opinions nor the time to form them. I did have strong suspicions of hoody guy once he came to light. But I am happy to defend those who suspected the spouse because time after time we’ve seen supposedly grief stricken people cry crocodile tears in public over their ‘loved ones’ whom they themselves murdered

      Can’t see much point therefore in pointing the finger at anyone. What purpose does it serve, other than to gain a bit of traction at the expense of people who simply tried to solve a mystery online ?

      • Well said. I was guilty of suspecting TM. The way he conducted himself in those interviews still looks weird to me…maybe that’s just his personality. I’d be a wreck and it would show if it was my wife. I’ve learnt something from all of this – don’t be too quick to judge. My apologies to Tom, his family and friends.

    • Well said. You have too many armchair detectives with no clue what there talking about. This is not a fiction blog this is a real person and I actually work at the ABC and people like this piss me off. Id love to see these DH put in front of all the media after having your wife missing and then we can decide your fate. DONT have a opinion when you dont know what the f your talking about. Do you have all the cards in front of you NO you dont. leave the cops with the actual info to do there jobs.

      • And another one leaping in and who obviously hasn’t heard the truism, ‘ Anyone can be anything online’

        Take your preaching to the police. Tell them they shouldn’t have invested so much time and energy questioning the husband and forensically trawling his place, huh ?:

        No. You’re not prepared to do that? But you along with others like you decide it’s fine to launch self-righteously into people in an online forum?

        Too busy for you on Facebook ? You thought this small forum would gain you more attention ?

        What a load of tripe you try to peddle ;;; ‘ Having your wife missing and others decide your fate ‘. Are you on drugs? Who in this forum decides anyone’s fate? You’ve lost touch with reality. Now off you go, back to pushing unsolicited advertisements through people’s letter boxes. And next time, don’t imagine you can vent your rage at the world by capitalizing on a woman’s murder

    • With respect, I there was/is something I didn’t trust about the husband either, and in the vast majority of cases it’s either a current or ex-partner that commits these crimes. I wasn’t sure that he killed her, but I thought there was something deceptive in some of his body-language. I wasn’t thinking it to be mean to a grief-stricken man, and I certainly am not happy to place an additional burden on him.

      However, I know that this may sound cruel, but I wish it WAS Tom Meagher who killed her, because at least she would have not gone through the torture she likely endured, and there wouldn’t be the evil socipathic scum waiting for more women to prey on (at least one more not caught yet, as I don’t think anyone believes that whoever did it was acting alone, or that this was “opportunistic”).

      • I meant to add that, I extend my sincerest sympathies to the Meagher and McKeough families. I only hope that good can come from this disgusting tragedy; that the people of Melbourne and beyond can reclaim their streets; that men and women find strength to report attacks and potential attacks and that the police treat them seriously. We don’t need more Jill Meaghers.

  8. @ Fly on the Wall: full Age article on current state of affairs on previous comments page
    @ Steve. Indeed. There’s an apology post from a number of posters on the previous page

    For anyone who’s been reading this site during the day: as flagged earlier this afternoon, a group is indeed planning a ‘Reclaim the Night’ for Sydney Rd, Brunswick. Anyone who believes that we should be fighting for a community in which its safe to walk around the block at night (whether you believe it’s realistic at the moment or not) would be welcome. Date yet TBC. The facebook page for the Sydney Rd ‘Reclaim the Night’ march is
    https://www.facebook.com/ReclaimTheNightSydneyRd2012

  9. Was just reading a pizza shop nearby also had footage that they gave to the police, would be interesting to see what that footage is and how detailed.

  10. Ok you local Melburnians, hoody-guy abducted JM not far from where the CCTV footage recorded them together. He must have had access to a vehicle. He lived maybe 3-4km from the abduction point. He is unlikely to have taken her to his residence; however, he needs privacy to sexually assault and subsequently murder JM. Where does he do this? He also needs to dispose of the body which now contains significant evidence of his DNA. Where does he dispose of the body that he that he doesn’t want found? His only error so far is walking past a shop with CCTV.

  11. God knows what hell Jill went through at the hands of that bastard before her death. Rip to Jill Meagher and sincere condolences to her family.

  12. Women are the stronger sex in so many ways but physically they will never be. How can men ever think it’s acceptable to hurt a woman and why would they want to? I am just devastated. What is all this for?? Nothing. No one wins. Everyone loses. I have a daughter and she is so precious. No one has the right to take her life, as no one did with Jill. The world is a horrible and crazy place :(

    • No the world is a wonderful place and most people i believe are pure of heart Don’t let what this scumbag did skew you view of humanity.
      From the latest pic the perp looks like he’s married as well, how sad for his family if this is the case.
      What a horrible waste of a young life!!

              • Three rings. Probably stolen or cheap plate

                Confirms my suspicions of him as effeminate. What many don’t realise is that a substantial number of attacks and rapes on women are carried out by supposed males who actually hate women – want to BE women – cannot be REAL women – so ‘get revenge’ on the women they envy and hate in the most humiliating fashion possible

                If it’s revealed that loser-scum hoody-guy raped JM together with one or more other men, the gayness status will be confirmed. Psychiatrists have asserted for decades that males who gang rape are in effect having sex with each other, using the female victim as the medium

                In time we’ll learn which woman in loser-scum hoody-guy’s life pizzed him off to the extent he went looking for someone way above his class upon whom to wreak vengeance. I’m weary by this point, because I’ve a horrible suspicion we’ll learn some haggard creature with a name like Kayleen or similar — probably greasy dyed black hair, belly like a beer keg and five welfare-producing offspring — gave him his marching orders or refused to share her dole money with him

                • BB Your beginning to appear too much like a dedicated Man Hater to be taken serieously as a balanced contributor to this forum.
                  While men may be more prone to murder than women, there are still many instances of women having murdered innocent men out of greed, but when such ossurs, we do not tar all women with the same brush, and we should not be tarring all husbands and males with the same brush in this forum.

                  I think you should take a break BB.

      • I don’t want to sound like I’m going on but hopefully they find out if he has ever lived or spent much time in Perth as this case is like the unsolved Claremont cases. I lived in perth at that time, mid 90s the girls left nightclubs and headed alone on foot only one of the three women was ever found, in a bush grave. Tragic and sad RIP Jill
        Peace to all good people.

  13. The herald sun reported that Jill was found this morning 50 Kim’s from Melbourneina shallow grave….they were lead there by Bayley….first name wasn’t in article…. My thoughts and prayers go out to Tom and Jill’s family…. What a tragic loss of life for a beautiful young woman….Vic police have also done a great job in finding this guy so quickly too….

    • Name is Adrian Bayley.
      Here are relevant tweets on the reddit site posted above by Karen(thanks Karen):
      02:23: @DeanFelton7 Police near Gisborne where the body of ABC staffer Jill #Meagher was found overnight. @7NewsMelbourne pic.twitter.com/Usgbaob4
      02:30: @DeanFelton7 The body of ABC unit manager Jill Meagher was discovered along the narrow dirt Blackhill Rd 12km off the Calder Hwy, Gisborne South
      02:32: @hamishfitz 41 year old Adrian Ernest Bayley has been charged with rape & murder
      02:39: @hamishfitz Adrian Bayley will appear in the Melbourne Magistrate’s Court at 930 charged w the rape & murder of Jill Meagher
      02:41: @hamishfitz Adrian Ernest Bayley is 41 years old, from the Melbourne suburb of Coburg. Police will allege he raped & murdered Jill Meagher on the 22/9
      02:42: @DeanFelton7 2.38am: lights illuminate crime investigators near where the body of ABC staffer Jill Meagher was found. @7NewsMelb pic.twitter.com/moF9I0PQ
      02:49: @DeanFelton7 Police say Jill #Meagher was left in a shallow grave by her killer, about 5 metres off a remote Gisborne South road. @7NewsMelbourne

      I feel distressed. It could have been me, it could have been any of my friends or my acquaintances. I can only imagine how Dev feels about coming so close to him in July and good on her for going public with what she knew, no matter what peoples judgements were. It probably all helped conclude all of this.
      So so sad for Jills husband, parents, brother and friends. Australia can be so so much better a place than this, and there is nothing anyone could ever do to convince you of this now.
      RIP Jill. I’ll be at Sydney Rds Reclaim the Night March next month and I’m sure many of us who didnt know you will see it as an opportunity to commemorate you.
      https://www.facebook.com/ReclaimTheNightSydneyRd2012
      If anyone knows of anything set up for general members of the public to extend help or goodwill to Jills family, please post about it.

  14. ..Journo tweeting about the case has posted:
    People linking to earlier articles about man charged in #jillmeagher case: DO NOT do this. http://www.thenewsmanual.net/Resources/medialaw_in_australia_03.html

    Tweet contains link to info for media on avoiding contempt of court & publishing maerial that may be prejudicial to the outcome of a courtcase.

    Dunno what the repercussions of all that are for this site, Robbo, butI’m guessing you’ve thought about it before?

  15. Nothing said anywhere online could prejudice me to even a hundredth the extent of a rapist killer’s leading police to the shallow grave in which he dumped the body of his victim

    Or do defence teams imagine I’ll feel more compassionate about the rapist killer if I hadn’t read that he’d led police to the shallow grave in which he’d dumped his victim ?

    Do defence teams imagine I won’t judge a rapist killer whom I’ve seen in videos as he approached a total stranger whom he subsequently raped and killed, afterwards leading police to the grave?

    I don’t give a rat’s bum about the killer, to be frank. Nor do I give a toss about the killer’s legal reps’ attempts to get him off the hook. So all the whines and threats emitted by a geriatric legal system as regards social media and the internet have no effect upon me

    As we’ve discussed before in this forum, this is a new age, new era of communication and it’s not going away. Up to an antiquated ass of a legal system to adapt or go whining and bleating into the abyss

  16. Legal system/industry cannot and will not have it both ways

    It was social media which pushed this case up and resulted in swift apprehension of the suspect

    If not for social media, the police would still be unfolding miles of cordon tape all over Hope Street and scratching their heads about how a handbag came to be sitting in an area they claimed to have searched extensively

    If not for social media and modern technology such as cctv along Sydney Road, the police would very probably still be emerging self-importantly from TM’s abode clutching large but basically air-filled bags and giving the impression they were ‘onto something’ involving the husband

    The police sought the public’s assistance. In doing so, the police encouraged public discussion, interest and involvement. And the police did benefit from public discussion, interest and involvement. Now the police believe they have their man and the legal/law industries expect the public to suffer short-term memory loss about the past several days of intensive publicity re: the case, to the extent the public completely loses all interest in the case/ceases to discuss it or the suspect, the better to suit defence teams in their efforts to put the suspect back on the street

    • Not to mention that the family themselves thanked the public for their use of social media. Define opinion:
      A belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
      A personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
      A judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.

  17. Can someone tell me if i’m allowed to link a story ( freely available on the net) regarding prior convictions of a person now charged with new offences ?

  18. Sad sad news. My mum was tragically killed a year ago and we are still waiting for justice. I now find tragedies like this physically hard to deal with and can somewhat identify with the heartache and the ‘why?’ that her family are going through. Well done to the Victorian Police, you are absolutely amazing. RIP Jill and say hi to mum for me *tears*

  19. Adrian Ernest Bayley from Coburg
    The old jail at Coburg
    Notorious Pentridge Jail closed in 1997. I remember visiting some friends years ago who were living temporarily in Coburg. We went on a pub crawl down Sydney rd on a Friday night. Got to about Prahran I think it was and then caught a cab home.
    The Pub at Coburg was completely empty, which seemed unusual for a friday night. We asked the Barman why, and his eyes went as wide as dinner plates. He said “You just missed out, there were about 5 police cars here, and they cleared everyone out.” “Tthere were about 6 arrests from a big fight.” “I have only just finished cleaning up, and thrown out all the broken cue sticks”
    So that was Coburg pub.
    Apparently when the old jail was being used, a lot of the families for the long term prisoners moved into the coburg area to be close to the inmates. The area is still a very rough one at times, possibly due to the nature of some of the people who live there

  20. It’s weird that in the 3 major cases in the last year – all men arrested were 41 at the time.
    Adrian Bayley
    Gerard Baden-Clay
    Brett Cowan

  21. Good work, Robbo

    Just saw the new page header and photo of an unattractive turd dressed in turquoise and sporting a Michigan State Athletic t-shirt

    The loudest and most outraged response you’ll receive to this thread will surely be from Michigan and frankly I wouldn’t blame them

  22. I feel so sorry for the families, what an asshole that guy is. My sincere apologies and love to Tom and his family. Regardless of the state of their relationship he would be devastated and he deserves respect from everyone. I trust the family find peace somehow through the discovery today. Now for justice if that is ever possible.

  23. I am so sad to hear of this outcome. I wanted her to hear she was found and ok. The heartache her husband must feel and family must be horrific. Please note this guy who did it in the news pic of him today has a (I assume) a wedding ring on. I hope his wife and family have the support they too will need at the shock of this sicko’s action.

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  25. Simone, your prerogative. I don’t let sentimentality of the Hallmark Card variety get in the way of truth and don’t respect those who do or who justify their decision to depart a forum (based, from your previous comments on concern about your own neck re: social media) via a comment made by someone else

    Fact is fact. I would not find it in me to chuckle or make throwaway statements about a missing loved one, etc. Would not find it in me. I still think it’s strange that TM chuckled when he did and it was remarked upon by hundreds in comments across the net. Nothing has changed that.

    You’ve stuck it out in this forum despite receiving negative responses to your own posts quite recently, so I don’t accept you’re such a delicate flower as to leave now based on something innocuous posted by me or anyone else. Your claims as to why you’re departing don’t ring true and I’m astonished you believed they’d fool anyone

    The umpteenth provocative, accusatory, self-righteous remark which prompted my response (the one you claim upset you so deeply) has disappeared, but the fact remain that TM did NOT help his own case by responding so casually and chuckling to the journalist’s enquiry, nor did he seem ‘traumatised’ as you claim — at least not any version of trauma that I’ve ever experienced or witnessed — and it’s precisely that, the way he responded, that prompted the speculation and comments to which the occasional forum-disrupter has used as justification for their vituperative and foul comments directed to people in this thread

  26. I want to apologise unreservedly to Thomas Meagher for my presumptuous judgement of his guilt in the disappearance of his wife Jill.

    I also want to express my deep regret and sorrow to his and Jill’s families for the appalling failure of our legal system that allowed such an animal with such an extensive and violent sexual history to habitually prey on young women in this city. My city.

    The rarity of an opportunistic and random violent crime such as this inevitably leads one to presume guilt on those closest to them. In this case – bereft of all the facts – I was wrong.

    I am sorry.

  27. Grow up. As if the opinions of a few amateurs on a blog are going to have one iota of effect on any case. I say close down the Vic Police for obviously suspecting the husband at the beginning! Do you know how ridiculous you sound? You should be thanking Robbo for giving an insignificant being like yourself the opportunity to vent your spleen.

  28. Where is the apology from Robbo??… if it exists it should be on the front page of this site.

    You people harp on about “a new age” with the internet and “freedom of speech”, but any view contrary to your own small minded waffle is promptly deleted…. bulllllllllshit.

    You are all a bunch of mindless law breakers yourselves, Robbo #1

    • go read the original thread sir, and it was there before you started your rant. he was seen a suspect and I and many people thought so.I never said anywhere on the site he did anything though…Go find it!

  29. Noting he has led authorities to the body, and he didn’t want charges detailed at the initial hearing, he will likely plead guilty. This will probably leave more questions than answers in the end.

    I work for a Commonwealth agency and had the opportunity to take a tour of a maximum security prison in WA. Unfortunately, anyone who thinks that he is going to receive ‘justice’ when he is incarcerated is likely mistaken. Sexual offenders are accommodated together and are segregated from other prisoners, so he will be sharing with other like-minded people. likewise, indigenous offenders are accommodated together, ‘sensitive’ prisoners (people from the legal profession, police officers, white collar criminals etc) were also accommodated together (with even more physical security between them and the other groups). The people we saw in the Sexual Offender wing were a physically pathetic looking lot, and judging by the only photo of Bayley, he appears a like he has spent some time lifting dumbells. So, he will probably not feel intimidated where he is going.

    Inside the sexual offenders wing, there is a secured perspex/glass cubicle where the prison officer controls access in/out of that wing and gets to observe activity both directly and on CCTV. Interestingly, there was a very attractive young lady doing this role on the day we visited, and I couldn’t help but feel that it was the prison officer’s way of messing with the inmates minds.

    • I wouldn’t care if prisons were a home away from home. The very fact that I was incarcerated and perhaps for many years would be enough to kill me.

  30. Again, the media is doing this all by themselves. They are having a field day, yet…. Robbo’s little blog is somehow having more effect? You really take the cake. Go fight the big boys, they matter more! But we both know that won’t happen. Big Man in a Little Forum vs Little Man in a Big Forum. Hmm, doesn’t take much thought on your part to choose your battle. Here, I’ll help you break into the big league. Here’s a starter: Dear Mr Murdoch, … off you go.

  31. Thanks for the photo of the killer. I’ve been looking online and could only find his photo here. How did you get a picture? Btw the your heading has spelt his name Adrian Bailey and not Bayley.

  32. Although it has been removed from their site , the ABC web news stated that another media personality had claimed been pestered by this guy before , the cops arrest them the lawyers set them free to frequent streets they don’t live in . Michael Brugman previous lawyer for this scum you must be proud you deserve to rot with him.

  33. At the end of the day a young womans life has been snuffed out by this weak grub who on an urge or impulse decided to rape and murder a inocent woman. A woman who was a wife and loving daughter. Her life had been taken by a worthless sub-human fiend. Its obvious that our laws are not a deterient, and we need to bring back the death penalty to deal with this kind of worthless filth in our society.

  34. From Tom Meaghre: “While I really appreciate all the support, I just would like to mention that negative comments in social media may hurt legal proceedings so please be mindful of that.”

    Wake up people!

  35. From Tom Meaghre: “While I really appreciate all the support, I just would like to mention that negative comments in social media may hurt legal proceedings so please be mindful of that.”

    Wake up people!

  36. The laws here are a joke.

    I lived in Singapore for 10 years and always felt 100% safe.

    My mates asked me if Singapore’s tough laws bothered me? I laughed and told them very little happens here, I feel safe and I don’t break the law.

    A guy got 6 months (with no parole) in jail for stealing someone’s underwear. Now what would you have to do in Australia to get yourself in jail for 6 months?

    Make tougher laws and watch the crime rate go down. Quite simple really.

  37. Why is everyone having a go at each other? The internet brings out the worst in people which is a shame as we should be respecting each other right now. Labelling people, calling them names and pointing the finger does not make anyone feel good. Just because you don’t agree with someone doesn’t give anyone the right to cut them down. Shaking my head in disbelief right now.

  38. I find this blog very interesting. I am a social justice blogger (completely different topic though) so I understand the passion/anger etc that makes someone put so much work into a blog like this.

    I am pretty concerned though about the way the blogger has placed the photo of the alleged criminal on here and called him a despicable mongrel.

    It is probably 99% likely this man did rape and murder this poor woman, and the labelling is therefore 99% justified HOWEVER to do this before he has been tried is to show a real disrespect for everything our society is based on.

    I know all the usual arguemnts – the Courts are weak, the punishments aren’t severe enough, etc etc. This is the usual stuff coming out of groups of people.

    Regardless of this, there still needs to be respect for the way justice is administered in our country, because without this respect there is a very fine line between us “civilised” westerners, and regimes with very little democracy or fairness built into their systems.

    Innocent until proven guilty is not just a catch-phrase people like to throw about. It really is important in upholding the freedom of every citizen of this country. Like I said, it is very likely this man is guilty, and very likely he has done something extremely evil, but our history is not without manye examples of people who have been wrongly convicted of evil crimes and sentecned to many years in jail or even death. Just look at the Chamberlain case, as a famous example.

    So please take down this man’s photo, and stop calling him names, until he has been convicted for a crime!

  39. The legal system needs to get with the times, you can’t change the way the world is today with social media. Also, this photo was taken from his fb page which was there for everyone to see until it was removed early this morning. The police removed his fb page AFTER they released his name to the public. If they were so worried about the legal problems they should have removed the fb page BEFORE letting out his name. They have no one to blame but themselves. Its not that hard to do a quick search for his name, i did it as soon as I heard it, was interesting reading especially seeing his friends list and locals around Coburg, wouldn’t wanna be one of them. The cops should have had the brains to remove his fb page before hand. Its Facebook, they have surely heard of it, its not like its some unknown website that it came from. Come on people, the cops are to blame for this kind of site. Stupid. Stupid cops, that’s all I can say.

  40. Hey Robbo / Everyone

    Apologies if this has already been mentioned (I can’t be bothered reading the entire thread). In regards to social media and other websites jeopardising the case – if we go back two years to the Kapunda murders – that case was all over Facebook and this website well before Downie was charged and sentenced. Do you recall at any time during the court proceedings if social media was brought up as being an issue? To clarify, was it ever stated that all the online banter affected Downie’s chance at having a fair trial? I don’t believe the media ever reported it but I have no idea if it was mentioned in court.

    My point is, even though people are saying be careful about what you say (and I agree with that sentiment) perhaps in reality these types of discussions have no bearing on the actual proceedings? Especially considering there seems to be no doubt of his guilt. I mean, you aren’t going to lead police to a body if you are innocent.

    Just a thought.

    Cheers.

  41. Get over it. Some people have already apologised and expressed their regret at being so hasty in accusing Tom, and others have justified their comments in other ways, which is their right.

    It is Tom who is owed an apology/explanation, not you.

  42. And let’s be honest here, TM didn’t exactly help his case by muttering ‘when she left — whatever … ‘ and tossing in the occasional chuckle for *whatever* reason – tiredness, nerves, ‘whatever’

  43. Why get over it?
    This is an important experience.
    You come on a forum, you post your opinions, your opinions are wrong and they could have hurt someone.
    Its appropriate to feel your feelings and to apologise.
    If it makes you feel uncomfortable then maybe you need to sit with it a little longer. Not ‘just to make you feel awful forever, but to ‘man up’ and own your actions.
    Part of the reality of the tragedy of this case is that Jills husband Tom had to endure suspicion from the police and from social media. That is the reality .
    It’s entirely appropriate and responsible of Robbo to have posted an apology on this site also.
    Part of a genuine apology is reassessing your actions- eg ‘how could I have done better’
    Part of ‘doing better’ is talking about the mistake you made in the first place. Here. So dont ‘get over it’ without thinking it through.

  44. BB, I enjoy talking with you, but thats an offensive thing to say. It distresses me further.
    I’m leaving this forum for now.
    This forum can be a great way to express & process all the confusion and grief that some of us experience when traumatic murders happen in our communities and I understand that everyone is doing so in their own way, but there’s a a basic level of respect for traumatised and grieving people that needs to be met.
    I have no interest in judging someone elses response to shock grief and trauma, especially when you know, with hindsight, that that is genuinely what it was- grief, shock and trauma.
    Bye for now :(

  45. Others come onto this forum and point out the wrongfulness and unlawfulness of what people post up here, only to be victimised and censored.

  46. Exactly.
    All those on this forum that thought it was Tom and apologised will just be the first to blame the next husband when the next wife goes missing, at least wait until the police have had a chance to do their job before . Tom was also a victim in this and the perpetrators were many on this forum. I agree sites like this should be out there discussing these issues, but come on, at the expense of the innocent and especially the innocent whose wife is missing, maybe not!

  47. Simone, is your post aimed at mine? My post saying “get over it” was in reply to a particular poster who’s offensive post has since been removed.

    I have apologised and admitted I was wrong yesterday, even though I never directly accused Tom, just explored that possibility along with many others. Others have apologised too. I don’t know what else you want from people or why you see my apology as not being genuine?

    But like I said above, the only person due an apology is Tom. What you think is irrelevant.

  48. Here’s a scoop for you, brave genius, an accused is innocent until proven guilty, if prosecutors don’t succeed, they are ‘not guilty’, that doesn’t mean innocent, it means case wasn’t prosecuted beyond reasonable doubt. Take your venom elsewhere if you can find anybody who cares.

  49. And comments on social media that are prejudicial may just be all it takes to get them off the hook…

    From Tom Meaghre: “While I really appreciate all the support, I just would like to mention that negative comments in social media may hurt legal proceedings so please be mindful of that.”

    Wake up people!

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