Gerard Baden-Clay found GUILTY OF MURDER

update 12.35 17/07/14

Gerard Baden-Clay launches appeal against murder conviction

Lawyers for Gerard Baden-Clay have filed an appeal against his murder conviction.

On Tuesday a Supreme Court jury found the 43-year-old Brisbane man guilty of killing his wife Allison in April 2012.

He was sentenced to life in prison, with a non-parole period of 15 years.

He has appealed against his conviction on four grounds, including that the verdict of murder was unreasonable, and that:

“A miscarriage of justice occurred because the jury should have been, but was not, directed that the presence of the deceased’s blood in a motor vehicle was only relevant if the jury was satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the presence of blood was attributed to an injury sustained to the deceased’s body on the evening of 19 April 2012 or the morning of 20 April 2012,” the application reads.

“The trial judge erred in law in not directing the jury that they needed to be satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the appellant placed the body of the deceased at Kholo Creek in order to use such a finding as post-offence conduct going to guilt.

“The trial judge erred in leaving to the jury that the appellant attempted to disguise marks on his face by making razor cuts.”


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A Slide show covering the tragic events that resulted in Gerard being found guilty of Murdering his wife Allison

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I have included the Allison’s family’s Victim Impact Statements in the GBC MENU or feel free to access each family members page and make a contribution here

Priscilla Dickie   Vanessa Fowler   Geoff Dickie


Gerard Baden-Clay, on the night of 19 April 2012, you murdered your wife, Allison.

The killing was not premeditated. But it was violent. That night, you were under considerable stress.

Your financial circumstances were, as you confessed to police, dire. Your domestic circumstances were no better.

You had resumed your affair with Toni McHugh. You kept telling her that you loved her.

You led her to understand that you intended to leave Allison and to be with her.

That afternoon, you told Ms McHugh that Allison would be at the conference Ms McHugh was to attend in Brisbane the next day.

Allison knew nothing about the resumption of the affair.

You deceived her into believing that it had ended in September 2011.

If the two women were to meet the next day, the consequences could have been dramatic, as you realised.

Your unsuspecting wife was doing her best to maintain the marriage.

A relationship counsellor had devised a plan. It allowed for Allison to express to you her feelings about the affair in a brief session every second day.

You had agreed, reluctantly, to that.

The first session happened the night before Allison died; and it had turned into an interrogation.

Allison remained tormented by the affair. She pressed you for details. On the night she died, Allison again questioned you about the affair. All the pressures proved too much for you.

The prosecution suggested that you smothered Allison; and that looks likely.

But whatever the mechanism, your violent attack caused her death.

Her fingernails scratched your face – the act of a desperate woman struggling for life.

Those marks are only consistent with your guilt.

Your shameful conduct after murdering Allison bespeaks a profound absence of remorse.

You took her body to Kholo Creek.

There you disposed of her in an undignified way: dumping her over a ledge to leave her lying in mud, exposed to the elements, insects and wildlife.

Then you put in place – and persisted in – a deception plan.

You used a razor to cut yourself near where she had scratched you, trying to disguise the injuries she had inflicted in defending herself.

You drove around the streets of Brookfield pretending to look for her. You have insinuated that mental illness may have led to drug overdose or suicide.

And besmirching Allison’s memory in that way is thoroughly reprehensible.

You have no criminal history. But you are definitely not of good character.

You are given to lies and other deception: so much so that whatever you may say on any application for parole, 15 years or more hence, will need to be assessed with considerable scepticism.

The   community,   acting   through   the   Court,   denounces   your lethal violence.

The impacts on Allison’s family have been grave.

Their victim impact statements poignantly express their pain.

You took a devoted, loving mother from her three girls, blighting their lives.

Pursuant to s.159A of the Penalties and Sentences Act 1992, I declare the

762 days spent in pre-sentence custody from 14 June 2012 until today to be imprisonment already served under the sentence.

The law provides but one penalty for your awful crime. I impose it.

You are sentenced to imprisonment for life.

Baden-Clay defence offered manslaughter

Gerard Baden-Clay’s defence team made an application for the case to proceed as a manslaughter charge due to a lack of evidence showing intent to kill. Nine News


After more than 22 hours of deliberations the jury has found Gerard Baden-Clay guilty of killing his wife Allison Baden-Clay, the mother of their 3 children.

To the relief of everybody, the jury has seen through his mountain of lies and secrecy, the double life, the excuses and false explanations. Gerard Baden-Clay was the one and only suspect from the very first day and was doggedly investigated by the dedicated QLD Police Service.

How this poor excuse for a human being has manged to fool so many for so long is astounding, but it all came crashing down this afternoon not long after the jury handed in their verdict after they deliberated for over 22h hours.


Off to prison to start his new career, Gerard Baden-Clay is heading to the place he belongs

Off to prison to start his new career, Gerard Baden-Clay is heading to the place he belongs

All previous threads and history including trial can be found clicking on link below

List of Trial Witnesses as they appear here



The statement made outside court by a family Representative

Here is Allison Baden-Clay’s family’s full statement courtesy of our friends at the Brisbane Times

“Today, we, Allison’s family and friends, are relieved that we finally have justice for Allison.  The evidence presented at this trial has proven that Gerard Baden-Clay is responsible for the murder of his wife Allison.

It has been a long wait over the last two years, and this result today marks the beginning of our long journey towards healing, and finally allowing us to mourn and grieve for this beautiful woman.

Today is not a win for our family, for it will not bring our beautiful Allison back. However, it is the closure of another chapter in this journey for our family. We have lost Allison and nothing that has happened here will bring her back.  We as a family will grieve her tragic death forever, the memories tarnished by the fact that she was taken from us in such horrific circumstances.

We would like to thank the Queensland Police Service and the CIB officers involved in the investigation, the SES volunteers who searched night and day in all weather, the scientific experts and the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions who have all worked tirelessly to ensure that we have justice for Allison.  We would also like to thank them for their compassion and support over what has been the darkest of times.

To all of our family and friends that have sat in the court each and every day supporting our beloved Allison, we thank you and hope that you too now find some peace from this result.

Throughout this time, those in the close knit Brookfield community and those in the media and wider public have shown us empathy and compassion for which we are enormously grateful. More so, however, we have appreciated your efforts to protect the privacy of Allison’s daughters.

Our primary concern has always been and remains the emotional and physical well-being of Allison’s three beautiful daughters.  We will help them to rebuild their lives and ask for your support, cooperation and privacy in order to do this.  We have a long way to go ensure that they will cope with a future without their mother.

Allison was a kind-hearted, generous woman, a loving wife and devoted mother whose legacy will continue if we all remember that life is precious and to take the time to be kind, smile at those who pass you by and live for today.

We, her family and friends, didn’t get a chance to say goodbye but Allison will always remain forever in our hearts.

Thank you”

Gerard Baden-Clay given life sentence for murder of wife Allison

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Former Brisbane real estate agent Gerard Baden-Clay has been given a life sentence after being found guilty of murdering his wife Allison in April 2012.

A Supreme Court jury has convicted the 43-year-old of killing the mother-of-three at their Brookfield home and disposing of her body under the Kholo Creek Bridge, more than 13 kilometres away.

Allison’s family shouted “yes” as the verdict was read out, while security asked for a short break because Baden-Clay was struggling to breathe.

Baden-Clay, who had protested his innocence in the witness box, faces a non-parole period of 15 years.

In a victim impact statement read to the court, Allison’s mother, Priscilla Dickie, said Baden-Clay had “betrayed” her daughter.

“We have all been robbed of Allison’s love,” she said. “The discovery of our darling daughter was absolutely devastating.

“The tragedy of it all is she had so much to offer.”

Allison’s father Geoff Dickie told the court he had been left “devastated by the murder of my precious, gifted and talented daughter”.

It was a case about sex, lies and murder that gripped the city of Brisbane for two years, and the ever-growing queues outside the Supreme Court were a testament to the public’s fascination with the sordid story.

In life, Allison Baden-Clay was a dancer, teacher, successful career woman, devoted wife and mother of three girls.

In death, she became well-known for all the wrong reasons.

Her disappearance in 2012 shocked the tight-knit affluent community of Brookfield. Well-wishers and concerned residents laid flowers at her home, not knowing what else to do.

At the same time, hundreds of police and State Emergency Service (SES) volunteers swung into action, combing surrounding suburbs for any trace of the missing woman.

“Please help us, because there are three beautiful little girls of Allison’s wanting to see their mother,” her father had pleaded.

Her mother urged: “Our lives will never be the same – we must, must find her – she’s so precious.”

Premier vowed resources to find Allison

Queensland Premier Campbell Newman vowed to commit whatever resources were necessary to finding her.

“I’m just very sad for the family and friends. It’s obviously just incredibly distressing,” he said at the time.

Timeline: Baden-Clay murder

However, from the moment Baden-Clay reported his wife missing on April 20, 2012, police knew this was no ordinary missing persons case.

He had told them she went for an early morning walk and never returned home.

But marks on his face alerted police that something more sinister may have happened.

Hours turned into days, and on April 30 a lone kayaker discovered what was later confirmed as Allison’s body on the muddy banks of Kholo Creek at Anstead, about 10 kilometres from the family’s home.

That day, police refused to say whether Baden-Clay was a suspect.

On June 13, however, he was arrested and charged with his wife’s murder.

Flowers and toys decorate a memorial for Allison Baden-Clay near Kholo Creek.

Photo: Flowers and toys decorate a memorial for Allison near the Kholo Creek location where her body was found in Brisbane’s west, June 23, 2014. (AAP: Dan Peled)

Crown case against Baden-Clay circumstantial

By its own admission, the crown’s case against Baden-Clay was a circumstantial one, but the accumulation of evidence was powerful.

A post-mortem examination failed to determine a cause of death due to decomposition, and apart from a chipped tooth and possible bruising, there were no fractures to Allison’s body.

A court photo shows marks on the face of accused murderer Gerard Baden-Clay.

Photo: Marks on the face of Gerard Baden-Clay. (Supplied)

But forensic pathologist Dr Nathan Milne believed Allison did not die from natural causes.

The crown said she died at the hands of her husband, the last person to see her alive.

At the time of her disappearance, Baden-Clay had marks on his face and body that drew the attention of police.

He had excuses for them, though: he had cut himself shaving in a rush; the marks on his neck were where he had crushed a caterpillar that had landed on him while he was watching one of his daughters compete in a cross-country race; and marks on his hand were from a screwdriver that slipped while he was helping renovate a friend’s house, but marks on his chest and shoulder could not be explained by him.

However, three forensic experts testified that marks on Baden-Clay’s face were likely fingernail scratches and Baden-Clay’s claim that they were from a razor was simply implausible.

They said marks on Baden-Clay’s body could also be from scratching, although they were less conclusive.

Then there was the dripping blood found in the boot of Allison’s four-wheel drive. DNA testing confirmed it was Allison’s.

Baden-Clay’s double life

The murder trial exposed a couple living very different lives publicly and in private.

On the face of it, the Baden-Clays were a successful family, running their own prestige real estate company.

But they were in deep financial trouble and Baden-Clay was having trouble paying off loans to friends.

In desperation, he had begged the state Member for Moggill, Dr Bruce Flegg, for a loan of up to $400,000, fearing he would go bankrupt without it.

Baden-Clay was also caught between two women: his wife and lover.

Allison Baden-Clay, Gerard Baden-Clay and Toni McHugh

Photo: (L to R) Allison Baden-Clay, Gerard Baden-Clay and Toni McHugh. (Supplied/AAP)

In marriage counselling, Baden-Clay had professed to want a future with Allison, but at the same time was vowing to leave his wife on her birthday for former employee Toni McHugh.

An email trail between Ms McHugh and a secret account set up by Baden-Clay under the name Bruce Overland portrayed a tumultuous affair, and growing frustrations from Ms McHugh about her lover’s unfulfilled promises.

“Well you’ll have to forgive me that I feel disappointed when this happens. I’m sick of hiding,” Ms McHugh wrote on February 20, 2012.

“I’m sick of being second best and having to take the back seat … all so she doesn’t find out.

“Why should I believe things are going to be any different than the past[?]“

Ms McHugh wrote on March 27 she had looked at rental properties.

“It would be so much easier if you did just move in with me,” she said.

“She can get her own place and the week you have the children you move back to the house.”

I’m sick of being second best and having to take the back seat – all so she doesn’t find out.

Toni McHugh in an email to Baden-Clay


Baden-Clay wrote on April 3: “I have given you a commitment and I intend to stick to it – I will be separated by 1 July.”

He also wrote an email on April 11 – referring to Ms McHugh as GG – their names for each other were Gorgeous Girl and Gorgeous Boy.

“This is agony for me too. I love you,” he said.

“I’m sorry you hung up on me. It sounded like you were getting very angry. I love you GG. Leave things to me now. I love you. GB.”

Until April 2012, Baden-Clay had been able to keep his two worlds separate, but they were about to collide spectacularly.

On April 20, Allison and Ms McHugh were due to attend the same real estate conference.

In the witness box, Baden-Clay passed off his declarations of love to Ms McHugh as empty promises to appease a volatile, unstable and confrontational woman who was infatuated with him.

He portrayed himself as a philanderer, but no murderer: he had affairs with numerous women, but was never going to leave his wife.

Baden-Clay admitted he deceived Allison, Ms McHugh, his family and friends, and in return for his deception they gave him their loyalty.

“My intention was to end any relationship with Toni McHugh and solidify and continue my relationship with Allison for our future together,” he said in the witness box.

But the crown submitted Baden-Clay and Ms McHugh were very much entwined and his deceptive conduct showed what he was capable of.

Allison’s mental health raised at trial

The jury saw two faces of Allison. The defence painted a picture of a woman plagued by depression and unable to cope with the pressures of life.

They pursued the possibility that Allison could have taken her own life or wandered off into the night to her death.

According to testimony from Baden-Clay’s father, Nigel, and sister Olivia Baden-Walton, Allison was so incapacitated she could not get off the couch.

But her friends and family told a different story: she was a woman who was happy and feeling positive before she disappeared.

A GP, two psychologists and a psychiatrist who had treated Allison all said she was not a suicide risk.

Marriage counsellor Carmel Ritchie, who consulted with the couple just days before her death, also testified that Allison was hopeful for her future and wanting to make her marriage work.

One thing was clear, however: their marriage was in crisis. Allison’s journal revealed a woman tormented by self-doubt.

“I don’t want to be alone,” she wrote.

“I am afraid of being alone and lonely, maybe because I think I can’t handle it. I am afraid of failing – failing in my marriage and what people will think.”

Allison also had lingering questions about her husband’s affair with Ms McHugh. Some were answered, some were not.

Questions like how many times did they go to the movies together? How did they pay for hotels? Where did they have sex in her apartment? Sex in the family car?

“Did she ever say: ‘I feel bad because you’re married?’”

Three daughters left behind

The trial was the first time the public had heard the three Baden-Clay children speak about their mother’s disappearance.

Heartbreaking video recordings of police interviews with the girls, then aged 10, eight and five, taken on the afternoon their mother was reported missing showed their fear, distress and confusion at what was happening around them.

Baden-Clay wiped away tears while watching his daughters sob as they were quizzed by detectives.

Each described being put to bed by their parents. The middle girl remembered her mother singing Away In A Manger to her.

“Dad said mum had gone for a walk,” the eight-year-old said.

The youngest child said: “She was walking for a long time and we think she twisted her ankle.

“I didn’t get to see her at all because I was fast asleep.”

The eldest recalled seeing her mum on the couch watching TV when she got up to get a glass of water.

“Dad was trying to keep calm for us, but I don’t actually know what was going on in his head,” she said.

She saw “scratches” on her dad’s face, but none of the girls heard anything during the night.

The families and supporters of the Baden-Clays have sat through each day of the trial listening to evidence almost too painful to bear.

They are bound by grief, but divided by loyalty.

The guilty verdict gives them an answer – wanted or not.

But one question remains, and only Baden-Clay can really answer how he murdered his wife.

Amidst the murky personal drama are three little girls who lost their mother and will now have to learn to live without their father.

A JURY has found Gerard Baden-Clay guilty of murdering his wife Allison.

The former Brookfield real estate agent, 43, pleaded not guilty in the Supreme Court at Brisbane at the opening of his trial six weeks ago.

A jury of seven men and five women delivered its verdict shortly after 11.50am today after deliberating for 21 hours before reaching a decision.

Justice John Byrne asked the jury to retire to deliberate on Thursday at 11.10am.

Jurors lined up across one side of the court as they were asked by the judge’s associate: “Do you find the defendant Gerard Robert Baden-Clay guilty or not guilty of murder?’’

The family of Allison Baden-Clay, including her parents Geoff and Priscilla Dickie, who are seated in the packed public gallery of court 11, cheered as the jury replied: “Guilty”.

The accused was seated in the dock and stood to talk to his lawyer Peter Shields as the judge discharged the jury and thanked them for their service.

Justice Byrne told the jurors he was grateful for their service.

brisbane times

Gerard Baden-Clay appeal likely: legal expert

July 16, 2014 – 2:29PM
Gerard Baden-Clay's defence team Michael Byrne, QC, and Peter Shields (right).

Gerard Baden-Clay’s defence team Michael Byrne, QC, and Peter Shields (right). Photo: Claudia Baxter


Wife killer Gerard Baden-Clay will almost certainly appeal his conviction and sentence, a Queensland criminal law expert says.

Professor Heather Douglas from the University of Queensland says Baden-Clay’s legal team will be poring over transcripts of his 21-day trial to find grounds for an appeal.

Baden-Clay has 30 days to lodge an appeal, or apply for grounds to seek an extension of time to lodge an appeal, following his life sentence on Tuesday for the murder of his wife Allison in 2012.

“There’s a very good chance he will appeal,” Professor Douglas said.

“I haven’t been through the fine grain of the transcript, so it’s very difficult for me to suggest that there are clear-cut unambiguous grounds that are likely to lead to success, but certainly that’s what the defence lawyers will be doing now.

“They’ll be looking at every word and every direction, everything the judge said and everything that was presented in the trial.”

Under Queensland law, there are three avenues of appeal, one being error of law, as in whether the judge has made incorrect directions to the jury.

Another is if it can be shown the jury reached a “dangerous” verdict out of step with the evidence presented.

The third avenue is miscarriage of justice, which can cover a variety of scenarios including whether jurors have been found to undertake their own research outside the courtroom or if any evidence presented was prejudicial against the defendant.

Professor Douglas believes Baden-Clay’s legal team could pursue a miscarriage of justice appeal because one juror had downloaded overseas’ material on jury deliberations.

She said this might be enough grounds for an appeal application, but his lawyers would then need to prove, for the appeal to be upheld, that the juror’s action impacted on the defence’s case.

“No trial’s perfect,” she said.

“It may be possible for Baden-Clay’s defence team to identify errors in the trial or problems in the trial.

“That will get them through to the appeals stage where they can then appeal against the conviction.”

Professor Douglas said she was not familiar with the entire Baden-Clay trial but had been impressed by Justice John Byrne’s handling of the matter.

“Justice Byrne’s a very experienced trial judge … he’s been very conservative in what evidence he’s allowed into the trial,” she said.

“He has excluded some relevant evidence on the basis that it would be too prejudicial in the circumstances. I think he’s been very careful with his management of the evidence.”


548 thoughts on “Gerard Baden-Clay found GUILTY OF MURDER

  1. GBC is launching an appeal, I just hope it will be heard and then not accepted, his sentence should be increased, not decreased. And the Judge said it wasn’t Premeditated, but violent, but I don’t agree with that, there is too much circumstantial evidence to say it wasn’t premeditated, although that’s just my opinion.


    • Agree with you, Crime Researcher. The more we learn, the more it appears to have been premeditated over a long period of time


  2. I wouldn’t worry about the appeal. As has been pointed out it was inevitable he would appeal. The was no reason not to appeal other than his accepting his guilt. Hell has not frozen over just yet. The post conviction publicity will not cause a drama. Terry Lewis(former police commissioner), Robert Long (Childers back packer fire), Millat, Cowan etc all recieved far more and worse pre trial publicity which did not stand in the way of a trial. At worst he may get a Judge alone trial. I suspect any judge would arrive at the same verdict as the jury did.

    The crime researcher – he cannot get a greater sentence than life with parole eligibility after 15 years. There is no discretion for the courts to give eligibility for parole after more or less than 15 years on a single count of murder. They can get more for multiple murders (ie Max Sica) but not for a single count. The only way he could get a lesser sentence is if the appeal court substituted a charge of manslaughter. The will never happen IMO.

    For the record I guarantee he will go to the High court after his unsecusseful appeal in the Queensland court of appeal. He is just that sort of thing!

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    • Well said ramjet2781, he will pretend to be remorseful to get his appeal accepted, but he will probably never be truly remorseful.


      • whether or not he is remorseful has no relevance to the appeal. To be successful on an appeal he must establish an error of law and that that error of law caused an unfair trial, miscarriage of justice or deprived him of a chance of acquittal. Highly unlikely in my view. There did not appear to be any controversial legal rulings that went against him. It appeared to be a matter properly for the jury to decide whether the circumstantial evidence was sufficient to prove he killed her and sufficient to prove he killed her with intent. That was a matter for the jury to decide on the evidence. The appeal courts will not go behind a jury verdict unless that verdict was not OPEN on the evidence. It was clearly OPEN on the evidence in my view.

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  3. Bloody hell… I have spent the last hour or so reading about the evidence excluded from the trial in rulings at the pre-trial hearing back in February, presided over by Justice Applegarth. Is anyone aware of this ?

    Forensic evidence that points to a cause of death – and at the very least indicates a violent death. Gerard’s lawyers successfully prevented much evidence from being heard in his trial. Evidence that would have further undermined the entire basis for his defence, especially the ridiculous “suicide” theory.

    • pathologist Nathan Milne was barred from saying a possible chest haemorrhage found on Allison’s body could have been “from an assault”.
    • prosecution was also barred from leading evidence that granular brown material found on Allison’s brain “may possibly represent a subdural haemorrhage”
    • regarding the chipped tooth, the pathologist was not to give evidence on the assumption it was caused by a recent injury or “that it indicates an impact in the mouth region or that it could have been the result of a blunt force from an assault’’.
    • pathologist was not to give evidence that smothering or strangulation were possible causes of death.

    The defence chose to cherrypick the autopsy report. They made no application to exclude Dr Milne’s evidence about the possibility that Mrs Baden-Clay died from drug toxicity.

    The defence also tried to have the 4 witnesses who testified about the nature of the scratches on Gerards face excluded, arguing that “The opinion of an expert is submitted to be unnecessary to help the jury form its own conclusions” . The judge ruled aginst them on this.

    On another note, Nigel and Elaine have visited Gerard is prison already. There is a photo of them on the Courier Mail website at the prison, assumably in the car park. I wonder if they made their passage for their Royal Visit to Wacol in “Bruce”. The little smirk has been wiped off Elaine’s face. Nigel doesn’t have the detached, bemused appearance he had at the funeral. Maybe it’s starting to sink in for certain quarters of this family. Just maybe…

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    • Yeah JJE … this is where I wonder about our legal system …HOW can our QLD Supreme Criminal Court claim to seek “truth & justice” when the Defense is allowed to cherry-pick the autopsy report?…in a murder trial in favor of their defense…How is it that in our present day legal system… the Defense can prevent evidence from being heard by the jury? … Dr Milne and associates do have the right to form an expert opinion … they are the experts…

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  4. I just want to forget about this case, but now since the Mrs Gerard Baden Clay is launching a appeal, it’s got me interested in what’s going on with the case again, but once his appeal is over, wether accepted or not there is no point in thinking about it anymore, although there is nothing wrong with commenting on here about it, it’s the commenters choice. I won’t be thinking about the case once the appeal is over.

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    • Crime Researcher, we will forget him, same as Gittany and Sica

      But first I have to continue venting my loathing, for the sake of my health. No good bottling things up


      • I agree BB. I will still comment on this website after the appeal, about maybe another case that comes up, who knows, another husband might murder his wife, but he may hide the circumstantial evidence much better then GBC.


  5. Must have been taxing for the BCs, having to listen to and watch their big, bullying killer weeping like he did as a two year old and spitting his dummy against the protective screen

    The State is having to pay for and conduct the parenting the BCs failed to do all those years ago. It will be once performance after another, I imagine: fake breathing problems, fake hysteria, fake suicidal tendencies, fake choking, fake illnesses, constantly begging for a nice psychologist to come and talk about him, etc

    And NCB, Big Game Hunter aka Bwana, will have tried his old dinosaur stand-over tactics for sure, phoning the defence team for which we paid and snarling, Get that appeal in, pronto. My boy can’t take this. Get him out of here. Do whatever it takes

    And the defence team (for which we pay) look at each other and sigh, Not even a week’s grace from this mob. Ok, get the appeal in. Sooner it’s done, sooner it’s over and we won’t need to hear from them again

    Then it will off to the prison each week for the BCs. More whining and weeping each visit from their convicted murderer dud son. Then back home to Skull Manor, not wanting to even look at each other. Until the time comes when one of them says, You go. I’m not up to it today. Say hello to him for me

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    Police investigate approaches to Gerard Baden-Clay jurors. Both approaches while ignored by the jurors were swiftly reported to trial Justice Byrne.

    Police are also investigating a post on the Facebook page “Justice for Allison Baden-Clay” by someone purporting to be a juror, asking for public patience while the jury deliberated.


    • Thanks for the good photos gerryrocks. Remember the time Bwana and Elaine passionately kissed for the media, the media did not want to see two Geriatrics kissing, how disgusting and creepy, what they did.


  7. Although this hasn’t been officially proven, psychopaths do tend to change their appearance, and when their appearance changes, their personality changes. So that I believe is a sign. GBC was originally overweight, had lighter hair and was clean shaven and seemed calm and quiet, until after he murdered Allison, lost a lot of weight quickly, darkened his hair, started to grow a beard, and looked angry and resentful and he even walked differently and his personality changed, he was obviously trying to become a different person, which in itself is a mental illness.


    • Maybe he will come to hope to be sent to ‘The Park Centre for Mental Health’ just down the road. He may prefer to be in with the certified mentally ill. He would be very well looked after. My husband used to work there.


    • Crime Researcher, that’s a novel slant

      But here’s something to consider. Somewhere around there’s a claim by GBC that he was a loving husband, caring, blablahhahaha — but ‘in the last few months’ he’d changed to putting self first

      See the lies? He was always about self, from the start. The lies about his non-existent qualifications. The lies about quitting Flight Centre when now we learn he was a thief. The lies about supporting Allison on their return from the trip he wanted to take and she did not, when in fact he was unemployed whilst Allison was much in demand and supported him

      He’s full of it, always was and those who spent time with him knew it and knew what a pathological liar and useless grub he always was

      But he tries this self-analysis because of course, it’s his favourite topic — himself

      He didn’t seem quiet and calm before killing his wife. Have you seen the photos of him out of his mind at real estate junkets? See the crazy eyes, the manic stance, the showing off, the wild expressions

      Sure, a change in appearance can give a person a boost, a new outlook, an increase in confidence and new opportunities. If not, there wouldn’t be millions of hair-colours sold every month, or booked-out beauty salons, botox-clinics, cosmetic surgery and dentistry businesses churning out gold. There wouldn’t be weight loss clinics, farms, groups, etc. or a fashion industry, self-help seminars, books and tapes

      It’s skin deep. GBC is a turd, was a turd, will always be a turd, no matter how much perfume he drenches himself in. It’s to the bone. His tears are for himself. Self, self, self. It’s an illness, a loop like a cctv camera feeding footage of himself back onto the screen of his mind. The only person he’s capable of loving is himself. No change of jacket or hairstyle can alter that. He’ll probably lie there in his coffin, listening to people talking about him and scrabbling with broken nails to get the lid off so he can push up through the dirt to join in the talking about him. Silver bullets needs to be made along with a ten inch long silver nail to be driven through his skull after death

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      • Couldn’t agree more BB, but you can console yourself with what a miserable lonely existence that must be. It is clear he has never had a close or loving relationship with ABC or anyone else, his own kids included. That is evidenced by what he did to ABC and his own children both pre and post ABC’s death. his loneliness will only be worse in jail with no uninformed observers for him to attempt to impress for his own self glorification. All his personality problems will cause him to feel his fall from grace more acutely. But the reality is that in or out of jail he was always destined for a miserable life. unfortunately he chose to also inflict immense misery on a lot of innocent people.


          • BB, I think you should go sit on the beach tomorrow and enjoy the good things in life. Don’t let GBC cause you anymore misery. He will be rotting in his own misery for a long time and deserves every bit of it. Enjoy yourself even if just to spite him.


            • Ramjet — thanks. Wise words and appreciated. I’m just ranting him out of my head. We’ll all be done with him soon. Then he’ll be consigned to the pile of faulty articles of humanity along with Bayley, Gittany, Cowan, Milat, et al, consuming taxpayers’ hard earned dollars in expensive facilities

              Took a brisk walk late this arvo and it was glorious with the trees waving in the wind, the crisp air, roses in bloom, kids in beanies, dogs in winter jackets, spectacular sunset and cloud formations

              Best regards :-)

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    • That is so true TCR – (from experience – no – not me!) they want to reinvent themselves – it is as if to say “one down, next one now”…..


  8. Bastard Clays defence lawyers are only in it for the money they know dam well hes guilty but they continue on just to keep themselves going they really are pushing it give it up you greedy corrupt opportunists it wont work.Your clients a goner.


  9. We always knew an appeal would occur.
    The fact that it has been lodged so quickly suggests that the Clan has hounded the lawyers to do something asap.
    The grounds seem somewhat contrived to me .
    Justice Byrne was extremely thorough in his directions to the jury.

    Normally it would take a couple of weeks to get a lawyer’s opinion on the grounds for an appeal -this has been rushed through because that”s what the Clan wants.

    The Dickies can’t really move forward with certainty until the whole appeal process is exhausted-he’ll try to go to the High Court,,petition the Governor,, the Queen , may be even to the International Court in The Hague.

    They can also expect a fight in the Family Court.I predict OBW will try for custody of the girls – she seems to be down here all the time now.

    They will argue the Dickies are too old etc to look after the girls..

    The fight in the Family Court will be ugly- but hopefully the judge will order that it is in the best interest of the girls that the Dickies have permanent custody and also that the tainted name of Baden Clay no longer be their surname.and that they have no further contact ever with that accursed family :

    1 Who refused to co operate in any way whatsoever from day 1 of the search and police investigation.and indeed hindered the search by their actions as reported in the Courier Mail .

    2 Aided and abetted GBC in covertly contacting TM ..

    3 Took part in a cynical and thoroughly despicable attempt to trash the victims’s memory (which was rightly condemned by Justice Byrne.).

    4 Whose continued presence in this City and country is an affront to us all..-send them back to Zimbabwe where Robert Mugabe can deal with them,.

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    • Nice work, Southsider and I agree wholeheartedly about freeing the girls AND all the memorials for Allison, etc, of that foul, misbegotten ‘Baden’ curse name. It’s one of the first things I’d do. Why should those girls have to be burdened with it or its connotations

      I loved this part: he’ll try to go to the High Court,,petition the Governor,, the Queen , may be even to the International Court in The Hague

      If OW even hinted at taking the girls, she’d be in for a fight she’d never forget and she would lose. About time she stayed at home and looked after her own, imo

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      • Something occurred to me earlier. Does EBC drive? Thinking of it in relation to OWs trial testimony put-downs of Allison re: driving. OW claimed — and she will never live any of it down — that Allison had to be chauffeured around by GBC


      • Yes-I agree she’d have a hell of a fight and I.m sure plenty of us would be prepared to kick in to fund the Dickie’s costs if necessary-

        I really wouldn’t be surprised though if he didn’t spend all his time in jail fighting to get out as I can’t see him ever accepting his guilt.


        • Southsider, the Dickies have been taken into people’s hearts, genuinely. They’d have a lot of support. Plus, Allison’s sister and brother and their families are sharing in the care and support of the girls. And they’re demonstrably sane, unlike some we could mention

          As for GBC, the State doesn’t mess around with drawing the line, and he’s needed that line to be drawn for a very long time by the sound of things. None of his acts will work in prison and he’ll work that out very swiftly as a matter of sheer survival. If he refuses to accept, he’ll just make life harder for himself. He’s a number now, that’s all. Once the appeal’s out of the way, he’ll have to knuckle down for the long haul

          Thing which concerns me far more is Mr Dickie’s health. He’s not looking well, even compared to the photos of him at the funeral. Poor Mrs Dickie and her family have a lot on their plate. And unlike the attention-seeking others, the Dickies just get on with it uncomplainingly. What a contrast


      • I loved this part: he’ll try to go to the High Court,,petition the Governor,, the Queen , may be even to the International Court in The Hague



  10. Morning all,
    This is for those who haven’t or can’t subscribe to the Courier Mail for free reading.

    The link should work for free reading.
    I watched the news last night on Channel 7 and someone in the legal profession was interviewed. She said it could go either way at the Appeal, acquitted or another trial. I’m hoping for the latter. I’d rather see 3 judges order another trial because it means he’ll have to sweat it out for many months before it goes back to court which could take another 2 years and I figure, the longer the better.
    I don’t think the judge influenced the Jury at all. He simply outlined in detail, what the experts had told while on the stand. It’s not an offence to do that. The Jury needed the facts so they could come to a unanimous verdict.
    Allison needs to get the peace she deserves but this bastard is just prolonging the pain of Allison and her family.
    Anyway, I’m off to work before the Motorways turn into a car park again this morning.
    Thank God it’s Friday. Have a good one everyone and stay safe.

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    Corridors of Power: Hot gossip on Queensland politics, law, business, celebrity,
    The Courier Mail, August 07, 2014.

    It is a well respected tenet of Queensland Law that everyone deserves the right to a fair trial to ensure justice is done, and seen to be done.
    “No one can argue Baden-Clay didn’t have the best representation available” … “the community can sleep well in the knowledge Baden-Clay is behind bars despite a robust defence”. …


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