List of Australian criminals
This is a list of Australian people who have been convicted of serious crimes ( I have taken the liberty of sourcing this info from the great site wikipedia for speed and accuracy, cheers robbo)
This is not a complete list and is being added to all the time. If you feel someone is worthy of being in this list of CONVICTED criminals, let me know.
Bank robbers
Australians convicted of bank robbery:
- Brenden Abbott, (born 1962), known as the Postcard Bandit
- Darcy Dugan, (1920–1991), bank robber and New South Wales’ most notorious prison escape artist
- Keith Faure, (born 1951), from Victoria, is an Australian career criminal
- Edward “Ned” Kelly, (1854/1855–1880), famous armour wearing Victorian bushranger
- Victor Peirce (1958–2002) ,from Melbourne, was a member of the Pettingill family
- Gregory Roberts (born 1952), a former heroin addict and convicted bank robber who escaped and fled to India. Author of Shantaram.
Drug traffickers
See also: Illegal drug trade
Australians convicted of drug related crimes both in Australia and overseas.
- Dennis Allen, nicknamed Mr. Death, member of the Pettingill family
- Kevin Barlow, executed in Malaysia.
- Nola Blake, sentenced to death in Thailand in 1988. Sentence later commuted to life.
- Brian Chambers, executed in Malaysia.
- Schapelle Corby, serving a 20 year prison sentence in Indonesia.
- Holly Deane-Johns, serving a 31 year prison sentence in Thailand.Transferred back to Perth in 2007.
- Warren Fellows,
- Jim Krakouer, star AFL footballer imprisoned for 16 years on amphetamine trafficking charges
- Todd Douglas Little, sentenced to 22 years jail for manufacture and supply of 19 kilograms of methamphetamine over a 2 year period. Member of Nomads bikie gang.
- Michael McAuliffe, executed in Malaysia.
- David McMillan (smuggler) He escaped from Thailand’s notorious Bangkok Prison in 1996.
- Van Tuong Nguyen, executed in Singapore.
- Bali Nine
- Andrew Chan, sentenced to death in Indonesia on 14 February 2006
- Si Yi Chen, sentenced to life imprisonment in Indonesia on 16 February 2006
- Michael Czugaj, sentenced to life imprisonment in Indonesia on 14 February 2006
- Renae Lawrence, sentenced to 20 years imprisonment in Indonesia
- Tan Duc Thanh Nguyen, sentenced to life imprisonment in Indonesia on 16 February 2006
- Matthew Norman, sentenced to life imprisonment in Indonesia on 16 February 2006
- Scott Rush, sentenced to life imprisonment in Indonesia on 13 February 2006
- Martin Stephens, sentenced to life imprisonment in Indonesia on 14 February 2006
- Myuran Sukumaran, sentenced to death in Indonesia on 14 February 2006
- Victor Peirce, member of the Pettingill family, murdered in 2001.
- Kath Pettingill, former brothel worker and owner, and criminal matriarch of the Pettingill family.
- Roger Rogerson, corrupt former police officer.
- Stephen John Sutton, imprisoned in Argentina on drug charges
- Robert Trimbole, International felon and drug lord
- Andrew “Benji” Veniamin, murdered in 2004
- Richard James Walsh, sentenced to 32 years jail for supplying 450 kilograms of methamphetamine between March 1997 and September 2001. Former head member of Nomads bikie gang.
- Carl Williams, murdered in 2010
Families
Notable Australian criminal families.
Gangsters
- Alphonse Gangitano, associate of Jason Moran, murdered.
- Michael Kanaan, multiple murderer and gang member
- Tony Mokbel, serving a 12 year sentence, awaiting further charges
- Jason Moran, killed by rival gangster Carl Williams in a gang war
- Lewis Moran, killed by rival gangster Carl Williams in a gang war
- Mark Moran, killed by rival gangster Carl Williams in a gang war
- Nikolai Radev, killed in gang war
- Stewart John Regan, A well known member of the Australian underworld during the 60′s and 70′s
- Abraham Saffron, King of kings Cross, sydney gangster.
- Andrew Veniamin, killed in gang war by Mick Gatto
- Carl Williams, murdered by a prison inmate
Fraudsters
Australians convicted of fraud
- Rodney Adler, Sydney based fraudster who was imprisoned for his role in transactions to hide the true financial status of FAI Insurance.
- Alan Bond, jailed for three years in 1996 for fraud
- Brian Burke, former W.A. premier imprisoned for rorting travel expenses
- Michael Cobb, former politician convicted of fraud after rorting travel expenses
- Laurie Connell, jailed for conspiring to pervert the course of justice
- Peter Foster, one of Australia’s most famous conmen, jailed for fraud
- Simon Hannes, insider trading ahead of takeover of TNT in 1996
- Ray O’Connor, former W.A. premier imprisoned for stealing
- Rene Rivkin, stockmarket guru imprisoned on insider trading charges
- Christopher Skase, failed businessman and fugitive who escaped to Majorca
- Andrew Theophanous, bribery and fraud offences relating to assisting in visa applications as a Member of Parliament
- Glenn Wheatley, jailed for tax evasion
- Ray Williams, fraud related to the collapse of HIH Insurance
Murderers
Australians convicted of murder.
- Dante Arthurs, murdered Sofia Rodriguez-Urrutia-Shu
- Valmae Beck, sentenced to life for the murder of Sian Kingi
- Lindsay Beckett and Leslie Camilleri, convicted of the Bega schoolgirl murders
- James Beauregard-Smith, convicted triple murderer and rapist
- Kenneth Brown, explorer and pastoralist hanged for murdering his wife
- Martin Bryant, convicted of 35 murders in the Port Arthur massacre
- Wayne Butler, convicted of murdering Celia Douty
- Patricia Margaret Byers, Dubbed the Black Widow, convicted of murder and attempted murder of separate spouses
- Keith Faure, convicted Melbourne underworld killings murderer
- Christopher Dale Flannery, known as “Mr-Rent-A-Kill”, rapist and armed robber who shot an undercover policeman
- Arthur Freeman, sentenced to life imprisonment for the murder of his daughter by throwing her from West Gate Bridge, Melbourne.
- Andrew Garforth, convicted killer of 9 year old Ebony Simpson in Bargo, New South Wales
- Sef Gonzales, murdered his mother, father and sister
- Maddison Hall, murdered a hitchhiker, had a sex change operation in prison
- Murray Walter Hearne, killed Constable Peter Forsyth and maliciously wounded Constables Semple & Neville.
- Ned Kelly, bushranger
- Henry Keogh, convicted of strangling his fiancée
- Julian Knight, Hoddle Street Massacre
- Katherine Knight, murdered John Charles Thomas Price on 29 February 2000. The first Australian woman to be sentenced to life imprisonment without parole.
- Keli Lane, convicted of the 1996 murder of her newborn daughter Tegan on 13 December 2010.
- Wendy Lange: Dubbed the Black Widow, murdered her husband, sentenced to life imprisonment, changed name to Julie Sage.
- Martin Leach: bound, gagged and stabbed Charmaine Ariet and bound, gagged, stabbed, raped and slit the throat of her cousin Janice Carnegie before burying their bodies in a gully at Berry Springs.
- Francesco Mangione, the Mr Whippy ice cream turf war murderer
- William Harold Matheson, convicted of murdering ex-girlfriend Lyndsay Van Blanken in 2003
- Scott Geoffrey Maygar, sentenced to life imprisonment for triple murder and rape in Toowoomba along with John Woodman.
- Craig Minogue, Russell Street bombing
- Bradley John Murdoch, convicted for the murder of Peter Falconio
- Michael Murdoch, convicted of the Anita Cobby murder
- Gary Murphy, convicted of the Anita Cobby murder
- Les Murphy, convicted of the Anita Cobby murder
- Michael Murphy, convicted of the Anita Cobby murder
- James Ryan O’Neill, a Victorian convicted of murder in Tasmania
- Ronald Ryan, last person executed in Australia
- John Sharpe, spear gun murderer of his wife and child
- Anu Singh, murdered her boyfriend Joe Cinque
- Neddy Smith, convicted of the murder of Sydney brothel owner, Harvey Jones
- John Travers, convicted ringleader of the Anita Cobby murder
- Bevan Spencer von Einem, murderer
- Damien Peter Willis, Co-accused in the murder of Bruno Furina.
- Steven Bradley Wood, Convicted of the murder of Bruno Furina.
- John Brian Woodman, sentenced to life imprisonment for triple murder and rape in Toowoomba along with Scott Maygar.
Serial killers
Australians convicted of multiple murders
- William McDonald (“The Mutilator”), butchered four men in Sydney in 1961-2
- Raymond Edmunds (“Mr Stinky”), murdered a teenage couple in 1966, also a notorious rapist
- David Birnie, rape and murder of four women in Perth in 1986
- Catherine Birnie, rape and murder of four women in Perth in 1986
- John Bunting, convicted killer involved in the Snowtown murders
- Eric Edgar Cooke, The Nedlands monster
- Paul Denyer, Melbourne based serial killer during early 1990s dubbed the ‘Frankston Serial Killer’.
- Peter Dupas, Melbourne based serial killer who killed several times upon release from prison.
- John Wayne Glover, the Sydney North Shore granny murderer
- Eddie Leonski, American serial killer known as the Brownout Strangler
- Ivan Milat, Backpacker murders
- Leigh Robinson, murdered his girlfriends in 1968 and 2008
- Joseph Schwab, murdered five tourists across the Northern Territory and Western Australia in 1987.
Child sex offenders
Australians convicted of child sex offences.
- Geoffrey Robert Dobbs, labelled Australia’s worst paedophile, pleaded guilty to 124 sex offences and one count of attempting to pervert the course of justice committed against 63 girls under his care as a teacher and youth leader from 1972 to 2000, sentenced to two consecutive terms of indefinite imprisonment with a nominal sentence of 30 years
- Robert ‘Dolly’ Dunn, homosexual paedophile, died in 2009 while serving a 20 year sentence
- Dennis Ferguson, paedophile who has caused controversy in NSW and Queensland
- Andrew Garforth, convicted of the kidnapping, rape and murder of Ebony Simpson
- Barry Gordon Hadlow, murdered young girls in 1962 and 1990
- Brian Keith Jones, aka Mr Baldy, serial paedophile jailed indefinitely for breaches of parole
- Milton Orkopoulos, NSW state MP and child sex offender
- Patrick Power, Crown prosecutor convicted of possessing child pornography
- David Shane Whitby, convicted of 120 child sex offences committed against eight children between 1999 and 2008, sentenced to 32 years imprisonment with a non-parole period of 26 years
Rapists
Australians convicted of rape
- Leonard Keith Lawson, murdered two young girls in 1961, also a notorious rapist
- Peter Dupas, serial killer
- Ashfield gang rapes
- Sydney gang rapes
Bilal Skaf – ring leader
Others
Australians convicted of other offences
- Geoffrey Edelsten, high profile doctor convicted of soliciting a hit man and perverting the course of justice.
- Marcus Einfeld, former judge and convicted perjurer
- David Hicks, convicted terrorism supporter.
- Barry Morris, politician who was jailed for making bomb and death threats.
Now as I said at the top this list is not complete, it was one of the first topics I posted when I started the blog last year. I fantastic crime blogger has sent me a list of convicted criminals who belong in this list. I will include them. I like to have a link to the crime and or criminal so it will take some time. If anyone has stuff to pass on about this bunch, contact me via email link on the left side there or leave a message below!

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(Thanks to “The Real Underbelly” for sending me the list.Go check his site out. (offline at the moment)Tons of great stuff there!)
Eric Thomas Turner, murdered twice in 1948, twice again in 1973
William McDonald (“The Mutilator”), butchered four men in Sydney in 1961-2 updated
Leonard Keith Lawson, murdered two young girls in 1961, also a notorious rapist updated
Raymond Edmunds (“Mr Stinky”), murdered a teenage couple in 1966, also a notorious rapist updated
Barry Gordon Hadlow, murdered young girls in 1962 and 1990 updated
Leigh Robinson, murdered his girlfriends in 1968 and 2008 updated
Archie Beattie “Mad Dog” McCafferty, Charlie Manson-style serial killer, murdered 3 people with his gang in 1973
Allan Baker & Kevin Gary Crump, murdered Ian Lamb and Virginia Morse in 1973
Rodney Francis Cameron, murdered two people in 1974, murdered again just months after release in 1990
John David Lewthwaite, stabbed a young girl to death in her bed
James William Miller, helped Christopher Worrall kill 6 women in 1977
John Ernest Cribb, abducted and murdered a mother and two of her children in 1978
Paul Stephen Haigh, serial killer, murdered 6 in 1978-9 and one in jail in 1991
Robert Theo Sievers, murdered his wife in 1980 and girlfriend in 2000
Allan Douglas Thompson, murdered two sisters in 1981 and a family of four in 1984
Paul Wayne Luckman & Robin Reid, tortured and buried alive a teenage boy in 1982
Samuel Leonard Rushton Boyd, butchered a woman in 1982, killed a man at a hotel and 2 at a school in 1983
Gregory John “Bluey” Brazel, murdered 2 prostitutes in 1990, later confessed to murdering a shopkeeper in 1982
Douglas John Edwin Crabbe, murdered 5 at Uluru by driving his truck into a hotel
Andrew Christopher Albury, murdered a woman in Darwin in 1983, suspect in a Qld murder
Lyndsey Robert Rose, murdered 5 people between 1984 and 1994
Michael George Laurence, murdered 3 boys in 1984 & 1986
Clive Edward Stone & Anthony Arthur Stone, raped and murdered an intellectually disabled woman in 1985
David Jack Glen, raped and hanged his 10 year old female cousin in 1985
Andrew Mark Norrie, thrill killer, murdered 2 people in 1986
Mark John Adams, murdered women in 1986 and following his release in 2004
Stanley Brian Taylor, Russell Street bombing in 1986
Rodney Thomas Clarke, raped and murdered a young girl in her bed in 1987
Lloyd Clark Fletcher, notorious rapist, raped and murdered a teenage girl in 1987
Rodney Charles Collins, murdered a couple in 1987, suspect in many other murders
David Troy Masters, murdered women in 1987 and 1991
Anthony Shane Potter, raped and murdered a disabled woman in 1987
Anthony John Hore, murdered a man in 1987, murdered a fellow inmate in 2000 along with Stanley James Fyffe
Daryl Francis Suckling, murdered a prostitute in 1987
Francis James Carter, “the most dangerous man in Australia”, murdered a man in 1988 and a fellow inmate in 1990
Douglas James Wade, raped and murdered an infant in 1988
Stephen Wayne “Shorty” Jamieson, Matthew James Elliot & Bronson Matthew Blessington, abducted, raped and drowned Janine Balding in 1988
David Harold Eastman, assassinated AFP Assistant Commissioner Colin Stanley Winchester in 1989
Neville Raymond Towner, murdered a young girl in 1989
Tracey Avril Wigginton & Lisa Marie Ptaschinski, murdered a man and drank his blood in 1989
Daniel Leslie Miles, murdered his girlfriend in 1990, broke out of prison and murdered his friend in 1999
Michael John Marlow, murdered a man in Tasmania in 1990, also a notorious rapist
Kathleen Megan Folbigg, killed her 4 children between 1989 and 1999
Robert Arthur Selby Lowe, abducted and murdered a young girl in 1991
Ashley Mervyn Coulston, executed three young people in 1992
Malcolm George Baker, murdered 6 in Central Coast massacre in 1992
Maxwell Harold Trotter, raped and drowned a 2 year old boy in 1993
Jason John “Waxy” Nixon, murdered fellow inmates in 1993 and 2003
Robert Mark Steele, along with others killed 3 men in NSW and possibly others in Qld in 1993
Jeffrey Gilham, killed his brother, murdered his parents and set the house alight in 1993
Edwin Thomas Street, killed his wife and girlfriend in 1993-4
Mark Lewis, killed his girlfriend in company with Lyndsey Rose in 1994
Richard William Leonard, murdered a man with a crossbow and stabbed a taxi driver to death in 1994
Phuong Canh Ngo, assassinated his political rival John Newman in 1994
Mark Walter Day & Andrew Thomas “Mugwah” Kranz, murdered fellow inmates in 1994 and 1997
Garry Zane Glasby, contract killing in 1994
Brendan and Vester Fernando, abducted, raped and murdered a young nurse in 1994. Vester murdered Brendan in prison in 1999
Michael Barry Fyfe, murdered a fellow inmate in 1996, caused havoc wherever he went in prison
Bruce Alan Burrell, murdered women in 1995 and 1997, bodies never found
Frank Strathcoe Babic, murdered in 1995 and shortly after release in 2006
Matthew Wayne de Gruchy, bashed his mother, sister and brother to death
Hoang Minh Nguyen, killed 3 in 1996 (when he was 17), killed a fellow inmate in 1998
Gerald David Preston, murdered 2 in botched contract hit, 1996
Sung Eun “Nick” Park, murdered his wife and 2 young kids, stuffed them in suitcases and dumped them
Dr Michael McGrane, murdered a patient with a morphine OD in 1997
Rodney Michael Cherry, murdered his wife in 1997 and stepdaughter in 1999
Bandali Michael Debs, murdered a prostitute in 1997 and 2 cops in 1998, currently charged with the murder of a prostitute in 1995
Christopher Andrew Robinson, bashed a paedophile to death in 1997
Mark Mala Valera, murdered and mutilated to men in 1998
Raymond Akhtar Ali, murdered and dissected his newborn baby in 1998
Matthew James Harris, serial killer, murdered 3 in Wagga Wagga in 1998
Leonard John Fraser, serial killer, killed 4 in Rockhampton in 1998-9
Mark Errin Rust, murdered women in 1999 and 2001, also a notorious rapist
Mark Dempsey Knight, murdered fellow inmates in 1999 and 2000
Terry Mark Donai, murdered a couple in 2000 for a slice of their inheritance
Timothy Paul Villa, murdered a couple and tried to murder their children, set fire to the house in 2000
Peter James Knight, murdered a security guard at an abortion clinic in 2001
Steven Anthony Fraser & Craig Andrew Merritt, each murdered their 3 children in 2001
Yonky Irvin Tan, ordered a hit on an accountant who was forced to drink acid
Crespin Adanguidi, murdered the wife and 2 children of his homosexual lover
Francis Michael Fahey, murdered prostitutes in 2002-3
Ram Puneet Tiwary, bashed his 2 flatmates to death in 2003
Adnan Darwiche, Naseam El-Zeyat & Ramzi Aouad, various murders during gang/family wars in 2003
Jeffrey John Hillsley, murdered a man and abducted and raped his young daughter in 2003
David Lionel John Coulter, murdered his young female second cousin, mutilated her and tried to commit suicide
Steven Roy Turner, murdered 2 in 2005
Hugo Alistair Rich, murdered a security guard in 2005, also a notorious armed robber
John Brian Woodman & Scott Geoffrey Maygar, killed 3 in Toowoomba in 2005
Robert Donald William Farquharson, drove his car into a dam, left his 3 boys to drown in 2005
Peter James Johnson, tortured and murdered an elderly couple in 2005
Christopher Wayne Hudson, murdered 1 and seriously injured 2 in Melbourne’s CBD in 2007
Sharyn Ward, starved her young autistic daughter to death in 2007
Sanjay Mehta, murdered his wife and then his young stepdaughter who witnessed it (2008)
John Walsh, “Cowra Axe Murderer”, murdered his wife and two grandchildren, tried to murder his daughter in 2008
Hi
ive been reading about a criminal fromthe 60s and 70s named stewart John Regan – all the books and websties say he was the worst criminal of the time – even in neddy smiths book he says that stewart John regan was the worse – but there is no info on thie criminal – do you know of any sites or additional info i can read into
Hi Moses,
Email me and I will send you the complete story of John Regan as it appeared in my book The Australian Crime File. I’m on pkidd@bigpond.com.au.
Regards,
Paul B. Kidd
Mr P.B Kidd, that was very nice of you to offer Moses that. I’m a big fan of your books and shows. I would love to do a email interview or something one day with you about crimes in our country.
It is guys like you that fostered my interest in Crime…
Regards
Robbo
Paul i am mentioned in your second ‘never to be released’ book for the ‘left for dead’ story i would love to have you sign it for me if you wouldnt mind donyelleturner@gmail.com
Hi, i would be interested in this too. as Stewart was my partners father, although he never knew him.
Gill
Hi Gill, I have some info on Stewart and his family if you are interested.
Some to add for you.
Eric Thomas Turner, murdered twice in 1948, twice again in 1973
William McDonald (“The Mutilator”), butchered four men in Sydney in 1961-2
Leonard Keith Lawson, murdered two young girls in 1961, also a notorious rapist
Raymond Edmunds (“Mr Stinky”), murdered a teenage couple in 1966, also a notorious rapist
Barry Gordon Hadlow, murdered young girls in 1962 and 1990
Leigh Robinson, murdered his girlfriends in 1968 and 2008
Archie Beattie “Mad Dog” McCafferty, Charlie Manson-style serial killer, murdered 3 people with his gang in 1973
Allan Baker & Kevin Gary Crump, murdered Ian Lamb and Virginia Morse in 1973
Rodney Francis Cameron, murdered two people in 1974, murdered again just months after release in 1990
John David Lewthwaite, stabbed a young girl to death in her bed
James William Miller, helped Christopher Worrall kill 6 women in 1977
John Ernest Cribb, abducted and murdered a mother and two of her children in 1978
Paul Stephen Haigh, serial killer, murdered 6 in 1978-9 and one in jail in 1991
Robert Theo Sievers, murdered his wife in 1980 and girlfriend in 2000
Allan Douglas Thompson, murdered two sisters in 1981 and a family of four in 1984
Paul Wayne Luckman & Robin Reid, tortured and buried alive a teenage boy in 1982
Samuel Leonard Rushton Boyd, butchered a woman in 1982, killed a man at a hotel and 2 at a school in 1983
Gregory John “Bluey” Brazel, murdered 2 prostitutes in 1990, later confessed to murdering a shopkeeper in 1982
Douglas John Edwin Crabbe, murdered 5 at Uluru by driving his truck into a hotel
Andrew Christopher Albury, murdered a woman in Darwin in 1983, suspect in a Qld murder
Lyndsey Robert Rose, murdered 5 people between 1984 and 1994
Michael George Laurence, murdered 3 boys in 1984 & 1986
Clive Edward Stone & Anthony Arthur Stone, raped and murdered an intellectually disabled woman in 1985
David Jack Glen, raped and hanged his 10 year old female cousin in 1985
Andrew Mark Norrie, thrill killer, murdered 2 people in 1986
Mark John Adams, murdered women in 1986 and following his release in 2004
Stanley Brian Taylor, Russell Street bombing in 1986
Rodney Thomas Clarke, raped and murdered a young girl in her bed in 1987
Lloyd Clark Fletcher, notorious rapist, raped and murdered a teenage girl in 1987
Rodney Charles Collins, murdered a couple in 1987, suspect in many other murders
David Troy Masters, murdered women in 1987 and 1991
Anthony Shane Potter, raped and murdered a disabled woman in 1987
Anthony John Hore, murdered a man in 1987, murdered a fellow inmate in 2000 along with Stanley James Fyffe
Daryl Francis Suckling, murdered a prostitute in 1987
Francis James Carter, “the most dangerous man in Australia”, murdered a man in 1988 and a fellow inmate in 1990
Douglas James Wade, raped and murdered an infant in 1988
Stephen Wayne “Shorty” Jamieson, Matthew James Elliot & Bronson Matthew Blessington, abducted, raped and drowned Janine Balding in 1988
David Harold Eastman, assassinated AFP Assistant Commissioner Colin Stanley Winchester in 1989
Neville Raymond Towner, murdered a young girl in 1989
Tracey Avril Wigginton & Lisa Marie Ptaschinski, murdered a man and drank his blood in 1989
Daniel Leslie Miles, murdered his girlfriend in 1990, broke out of prison and murdered his friend in 1999
Michael John Marlow, murdered a man in Tasmania in 1990, also a notorious rapist
Kathleen Megan Folbigg, killed her 4 children between 1989 and 1999
Robert Arthur Selby Lowe, abducted and murdered a young girl in 1991
Ashley Mervyn Coulston, executed three young people in 1992
Malcolm George Baker, murdered 6 in Central Coast massacre in 1992
Maxwell Harold Trotter, raped and drowned a 2 year old boy in 1993
Jason John “Waxy” Nixon, murdered fellow inmates in 1993 and 2003
Robert Mark Steele, along with others killed 3 men in NSW and possibly others in Qld in 1993
Jeffrey Gilham, killed his brother, murdered his parents and set the house alight in 1993
Edwin Thomas Street, killed his wife and girlfriend in 1993-4
Mark Lewis, killed his girlfriend in company with Lyndsey Rose in 1994
Richard William Leonard, murdered a man with a crossbow and stabbed a taxi driver to death in 1994
Phuong Canh Ngo, assassinated his political rival John Newman in 1994
Mark Walter Day & Andrew Thomas “Mugwah” Kranz, murdered fellow inmates in 1994 and 1997
Garry Zane Glasby, contract killing in 1994
Brendan and Vester Fernando, abducted, raped and murdered a young nurse in 1994. Vester murdered Brendan in prison in 1999
Michael Barry Fyfe, murdered a fellow inmate in 1996, caused havoc wherever he went in prison
Bruce Alan Burrell, murdered women in 1995 and 1997, bodies never found
Frank Strathcoe Babic, murdered in 1995 and shortly after release in 2006
Matthew Wayne de Gruchy, bashed his mother, sister and brother to death
Hoang Minh Nguyen, killed 3 in 1996 (when he was 17), killed a fellow inmate in 1998
Gerald David Preston, murdered 2 in botched contract hit, 1996
Sung Eun “Nick” Park, murdered his wife and 2 young kids, stuffed them in suitcases and dumped them
Dr Michael McGrane, murdered a patient with a morphine OD in 1997
Rodney Michael Cherry, murdered his wife in 1997 and stepdaughter in 1999
Bandali Michael Debs, murdered a prostitute in 1997 and 2 cops in 1998, currently charged with the murder of a prostitute in 1995
Christopher Andrew Robinson, bashed a paedophile to death in 1997
Mark Mala Valera, murdered and mutilated to men in 1998
Raymond Akhtar Ali, murdered and dissected his newborn baby in 1998
Matthew James Harris, serial killer, murdered 3 in Wagga Wagga in 1998
Leonard John Fraser, serial killer, killed 4 in Rockhampton in 1998-9
Mark Errin Rust, murdered women in 1999 and 2001, also a notorious rapist
Mark Dempsey Knight, murdered fellow inmates in 1999 and 2000
Terry Mark Donai, murdered a couple in 2000 for a slice of their inheritance
Timothy Paul Villa, murdered a couple and tried to murder their children, set fire to the house in 2000
Peter James Knight, murdered a security guard at an abortion clinic in 2001
Steven Anthony Fraser & Craig Andrew Merritt, each murdered their 3 children in 2001
Yonky Irvin Tan, ordered a hit on an accountant who was forced to drink acid
Crespin Adanguidi, murdered the wife and 2 children of his homosexual lover
Francis Michael Fahey, murdered prostitutes in 2002-3
Ram Puneet Tiwary, bashed his 2 flatmates to death in 2003
Adnan Darwiche, Naseam El-Zeyat & Ramzi Aouad, various murders during gang/family wars in 2003
Jeffrey John Hillsley, murdered a man and abducted and raped his young daughter in 2003
David Lionel John Coulter, murdered his young female second cousin, mutilated her and tried to commit suicide
Steven Roy Turner, murdered 2 in 2005
Hugo Alistair Rich, murdered a security guard in 2005, also a notorious armed robber
John Brian Woodman & Scott Geoffrey Maygar, killed 3 in Toowoomba in 2005
Robert Donald William Farquharson, drove his car into a dam, left his 3 boys to drown in 2005
Peter James Johnson, tortured and murdered an elderly couple in 2005
Christopher Wayne Hudson, murdered 1 and seriously injured 2 in Melbourne’s CBD in 2007
Sharyn Ward, starved her young autistic daughter to death in 2007
Sanjay Mehta, murdered his wife and then his young stepdaughter who witnessed it (2008)
John Walsh, “Cowra Axe Murderer”, murdered his wife and two grandchildren, tried to murder his daughter in 2008
Phew!
Thanks TRU, I will start picking them off, It will take me 5 years lol.Been flat out to keep up, being a one man show with a family, need some co authors on here maybe.My dream is to have an extensive collection that has it all covered. Thanks for the list, very handy.
PS I see where all the excellent stats come from, excellent site you have, you mind if I add it to my blog list?
Adrian Michelon, bludgeoned his wife and 2 children to death and then set them and the house on fire, Chifley, Sydney 2002.
Here’s another one – Clifford Cecil Bartholomew – 1971: In South Australia’s worst mass murders, ten members of the Bartholomew family, comprising of eight children and two women, are shot to death by a man at Hope Forest.
moses..stewart john regan is my grandfather, read the book the prince and the premier or catch and kill your own by neddy smith to find more info on him.
U have a brother then. He isn’t partners father. U also have a nephew
Sorry is my partners father
Anyone has any more info or a pic of Michael McAuliffe who was excecuted in MAlaysia? How old was he? Was he a career criminal type or just a young backpacker who got into the wrong party/drug scene? Not much info on his wiki page (I realise his family wants to keep his case quiet it just seens strange, no stories “defending/remembering” him. Anyone knows?
terry mark donai, is innocent, it was david weightman, that killed his parents 4 the inheritance.
Brendan Abbott.
To me properley the smartest of all Bank Robbers.
Master of disguise??
Till he got caught.
His downfall was taking on that dim witted druggie Brenden Berichon
I am trying to find out if the Killer of my friend was ever caught.
Her name was Melissa Lee Astill, she was 14 yrs old and at the time considered a prostitute. she was born in February 1980 & murdered in march 1994 her body was dumped near Lake Macquarie. all i can find is the newspaper article headline, i cannot read the actual article.
the atricle is headed “Girl 14 Dumped was prostitute” its in the Sydney morening hearld archives. i also know there was a full page article in the local Paper in Orange NSW as that is where we are from. but i am unable to locate that, i have emailed the paper for a copy but no one has gotten back to me.. i just feel asthough her case got lost in the system and i would like to know if anything has come of it.
Thanks
Tash
I also would like to know what if anyone has been charged for her murder. I often visit her grave when I’m home in orange, she was a beautiful girl who I had the pleasure of knowing for many years & attended school with,
I also do feel like her murder has been swept under the rug as I have on many occasions tried to find something in relation to her death on line and In criminal books but there is nothing which Is really sad because she was a very special girl.
That’s shocking. I have just been searching online to see if anything at all can be found and there are no results at all. I didn’t even find that disgraceful headline. She was child; whether or not she was a prostitute is irrelevant in that it shouldn’t minimize the enormity of the crime or diminish her value as a human. Poor dear girl. I hope you and others that remember her can make an issue – I want to know what forensics and investigations were undertaken – I want to know that there has been some real effort exerted towards achieving some justice for her.
Does anyone know what happened to Clifford Cecil Bartholomew, he was released from jail after serving 8 years, he killed his wife, 7 children, sister-in-law and nephew in what was known as the Hope Forest Masacre (SA)? Is he deceased?
Im the sister of an inmate on your list. How can i speak to you privately about my brothers conviction? The information i want to discuss with you is far too sensitive to type on the internet. I have to be very careful. Please reply. I seriously dont know where to go from here, its that big. King regards, cheree
Weird feeling when your brothers listed….mine is too
i was wondering if you know anything about mervyn rielly from toowoomba who was convicted of murder
jez i was interested in the book the prince and the premimer and were you got the book from as i have someone i loved very much that is in that book johnny warren he was my god father or any informatin any one has about him it would mean a lot thanks
Great man Brendan. Had the pleasure if his company for many years
Hi
I am trying to find information on a serial rapist from the 80s in the Perth area he was convicted on 16 rape charges and possibly 1 murder he was named the south side rapist he is due to be released fromthe bunbury prison this year I know this is not much information but I am hoping someone remembers this guy
Hi Jenni
Paul stephen keating is possible the person you refer to. He is being detained indefinetly
pretty sure he was charged for trying to rape a prison teacher in 2001 . real sick unit that guy !
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lets not forget the australia day murder by incineration of robert keith andersen by his former girlfriend and her new bed partner ,them being vicki yvonne brooks “nee” dunstan and dennis childs whom had murdered previously them both being from adelaide..
Another one for you. Malcom Thomas Clarke, murdered/raped a 22 year old(80), and then 2 years later murdered/raped a 6 year old girl. Was convicted of first murder after investigation of another rape. After 8 years in prison for the 22 yo murder and then another 8 years later is finally charged with the little girls murder. Is now in jail for a minumum 25 years.
I can give you further details on steven roy turner(my brother) also linda marie wilson mudered 2yr old jayden march in 2001(she was his foster mother),he was my godson also peter taber and ian styman mudered joy alchin in greenwell point nsw in 2001(however appealed in 2004 n charges downgraded to manslaughter i was a witness for the crown in this case)
Hi Donyelle,
I am more than willing to post your thoughts on that case. I want to have a new section/ page that I will dedicate to those involved in fateful crimes who for the most never get to have a say in the main media…
Maybe called In Your Own Words
I would imagine a lot of victims of crime and families of victims (a lot of the time deceased and have no further say) feel ripped off the the court system and the media once the case is deemed not worthy of any more airtime as they usually move on fast.
Please write back to me if you are interested in your own unedited threat where you get to say it how it is!
I obviously make the same commitment to any others out there but may need to contact them. One of the most common emails I get is from families etc who feel they have not been heard…On here I PROMISE you will be
best regards
Robbo
I was raped by a man names Robert Sloane. I didn’t report it though. I’m sure he was convicted of a different rape in Perth. He is in jail there. I also know of a girl he raped before me. I would like to see him added to the list please.
Gill
I was raped Burleigh HEADS 1994. Tried to report it didn;t get anywhere. The fool who called himself Rob, made phone call from my mobile at the time. I tracked it to his mother at brighton city council and found his name is Peter married to or partnered to a ‘lolly’ with kids, southport at the time. drive red maybe holden or for ute with roll bar (silver) and nsw yello number plates. said he was a stone mason who worked at nerang or mudgeeraba Qld as he was covered in white chalk type powder. Wor shorts and brown laceup boots. Does a lot of surfing. Grandmother had a borading house at Kirra.
He wants to hope he is not caught. Hope he hasn’t raped anyone else. I obviously am not about to forget. He mentioned he had a retired police force uncle maybe from horsham Vic named I think ‘Bill’.
If you are reading this asshole, all I can say is, What goes around comes around.
If you did it to me then you will have done it to someone else. I’d like to see you try me now! It would be a whole different scenario..
Reposting. Sent you the wrong email address:
I was raped Burleigh HEADS 1994. Tried to report it didn;t get anywhere. The fool who called himself Rob, made phone call from my mobile at the time. I tracked it to his mother at brighton city council and found his name is Peter married to or partnered to a ‘lolly’ with kids, southport at the time. drive red maybe holden or for ute with roll bar (silver) and nsw yello number plates. said he was a stone mason who worked at nerang or mudgeeraba Qld as he was covered in white chalk type powder. Wor shorts and brown laceup boots. Does a lot of surfing. Grandmother had a borading house at Kirra.
He wants to hope he is not caught. Hope he hasn’t raped anyone else. I obviously am not about to forget. He mentioned he had a retired police force uncle maybe from horsham Vic named I think ‘Bill’.
If you are reading this asshole, all I can say is, What goes around comes around.
If you did it to me then you will have done it to someone else. I’d like to see you try me now! It would be a whole different scenario..
And you thought I had forgotten and you had gotten away with it lol? Only so far. The future is mine to see you caught/.
Michael Alan Jacobs has been charged with the murder of Tamworth cop David Rixon on 2 March. This will be the first test of NSW’s controversial new laws that make anyone guilty of the murder of a cop liable to mandatory life imprisonment (which in NSW of course means no parole).
In order to qualify, the polce officer has to have been murdered while carrying out their duty as an police officer (ie not off duty or whatever) and the offender has to have (a) known the victim was a police officer and (b) intended to kill or risk serious harm to the police officer.
I don’t want to pre-judge the outcome, but from what I have read so far this seems to me like an open and shut case. He was stopped for a breath test by a uniformed officer, shootout ensued, officer dies. Case closed as far as I can see.
PS of the other lifers mentioned above, the Gilham convictions have been quashed (for now), Debs was found guilty of the 1995 murder and sentenced to life (in NSW) and Terry Donai is currently facing a retrial. Also you could perhaps add Walter Ciaran Marsh who was sentenced to life for murdering nurse Michelle Beets in April 2010.
Terry Donai was convicted again at a retrial yesterday.
Hey Robbo. I notice that the man who mudered my grandmother Mark John Adams (formally Unsworth) is on this website. I have some inside knowledge that has never been published in the media if you would like to email me.
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Hey Robbo, how about our worst Cocaine bust Richard Butrose
No mention of Andrew Kalajzich I see Robbo.
What about arthour loveday Peter Leonard power and bill munday they murdered Steven shipley in parramatta jail in the early 1980s I think 81 82or 83
“the bull’ bill munday was a close friend for many years staunch man
Lyndsay Rose???????????
Gina Rossato body found in Greenvale 1982, was anyone convicted of this murder?
Can you shed some light robbo?
gazette.slv.vic.gov.au/images/1982/V/general/112.pdf
The Age – Aug 20, 1982
Police now believe that the killer of Mrs Gina Rossato. who was found with her throat cut beside a road on the northern outskirts of the city earlier this week, may …
Troy
No one has been convicted
Im interested in someone I knew when i was a teenager,, was my mother in laws partner.. Not a nice person. Raped and murdered a woman in Chester Hill nsw.. Colin bond.. Hope he is still serving time.. Thanks
Have you any information of the case if young Vietnamese woman being murdered & raped by two men in Queensland. Late 90′s? They apparently cut of her hands and threw her in the wheelie bin.
no note of Melbourne serial rapist John Xydias? or his bestest buddy Harry Barkas? it’s worrying that there’s minimal on the net in regards to these vermin and their cases or people involved in the case,, especially as there are still four unidentified victims in the Xydias videos. ok,, so he was never found to have killed anyone,, but he was repulsively nuts,, drugging, then raping and filming the women. drugging so much that some only had recollection of the rape once police had identified and located them – and they were shown the video evidence?
It’s amazing that the Legend himself Mark “Chopper” Read does not get a mention. he was NO criminal, he has many books written about him, even a movie made about him, he been on television many times, and even gets to appear in commercials. Mark appeared on the Denton and gave a great detail of his life. That’s a Legend.
Dont believe what he says. I served time with him in jika jika and know quite a lot about him, threats he makes to others are him trying to big note himself. As to him cutting off his ears, that was done by another inmate who kept cutting and ignored his screaming and crying. The books he wrote should be marked as 85% fiction.
I was in jika with him too remember him standin over blokes for their jeans an runners with mad Charlie in the boys yard no time for him at all
I am looking for information about the murder of my sister Mary Therese Campbell (nee Williams) in 1980. The murderer’s name is Neville Smith and the murder happened in their home at Sefton, NSW. My sister was widowed from her husband Darrell Campbell and they had four children (3 girls and 1 son) formally of Mt Druitt NSW. She was stabbed to death by Smith in 1980 but exact date is not known. I am trying to find court docuements or newspaper reports relating to this horrible event. My parents were Mary Patricia William (nee Cassidy) and Thomas Patrick Williams formally of Greenacre NSW. My name is Aiden Patrick Cassidy (formally Patrick John Williams) name changed 2000. I also believe that Smith has since be parolled and remarried..both my parents have passed away and could no longer contest his application for parole. Hoping that someone can help with the information I need..many thanks
What were darell campbells kids names i might be able to help
Hi there I’m trying to find information on a murder of Estelle “Aunty Billy ” iven 19 years with 14 Featherstone. She was raped and murdered in her home . she was in her 70 ‘s. Billy ray dargen was given 19 years on top and 14 on the bottom .He is due for parole in 2013. I would apprieate any info I would love to try and stop him getting it. She was my godmother and a wonderful person Thank u
Hi Michael,
I also sought more information on this matter as she was my Nana (my father is Doug Featherstone). Can you please contact me if you have found any more information or if you still intend on contesting the early parole (i’m not sure if he is already out and sought a lot of information last year but to no avail. There was a full court transcript of his committal hearing available from this site – http://murderinaustralia.blogspot.com.au/1998/12/murder-in-australia-1998.html but it has since been taken down. I could not finish reading it as it was way too upsetting as his every action on that day was discussed.)
Thanks
Zoe
Hi Michael,
I found the sentencing information – http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/nsw/supreme_ct/2000/710.html
Please read with care
Take care
Zoe
Any chance you would have anything on the murder of Cosimo Castelluzo Murder in 1993 I have been trying to find out anything on this murder or any court transcripts i could read.My stepdad and brother were convicted of the crime and yet no body was found. How can that be does the courts only go on here say? I await your reply.
Kind regards,
Donna
Hi I was checking out this page and 3 people I saw on your list I actually was in prison with, two of which I shared a cell with over this time. If you would like some info on these please contact me. Before anyone jumps the gun I was there for unpaid fines! Thanks
I posted some information on October 30 2012 about the murder of my sister…wondering if you have any information about this case and where I can look for court papers concerning the crime.
What were darell campbells kids names i might be able to help
Kathy Campbell; Nichole Campbell; Gary Campbell,, and Tracey Campbell…mother was mary Therese Campbell (Nee Williams) father was Darrell Valentine Campbell…originally from Tregear Mt Druitt…Mary was widowed and lived with Neville Smith in Sefton NSW he stabbed her to death around February 1980..I think he has since been parolled and remarried..My parents adopted the children. Both my parents and the childrens parents have all passed away..
I met a guy called christian vidler and r quite curios about him he has been in longbay jail. He told me about his best friend terry fletcher who is a fugitive from darwin over 30 years ago. I have heard he shot 6 people dead and is a hells angel. I am curious to know the truth about these two people it has really impacted my life
I hope someone can shed some light on terry fletcher and christian vidler
I spent 9 years looking for christian vidler i didnt know for sure who terry fletcher was i just mentioned his name to people to find christian cos they were best friends i meant no harm
Rape number 2: Broadbeach. Kiwi white lived with mother near the Golf course. Be seeing you too asshole.Give me time.
Is this meant for me in relation to christian vidler and terry fletcher
I used to work for Milton Orkopoulos at his Swansea office when I was at school… strange guy…
Hi I was wondering if u may. Be able to tell me of the titles n authors of any books regarding Matthew Elliott one of the convicted murderers of Janine Balding. I was also told Matthew wrote at least 1 book and wonder if this is true or not n if so what is its title. Thx
Hi, I need help. I am a survivor of one of the criminals on here. it happened 14 years ago but I find I’m not so well now. I would like to face the man, who is in jail for life, for some closure. Just talk with him. My part of the story is not known. He went to jail for someone else. How can I do this?
Hi, I am looking for information on Matida Ann Edwards nee Cooper and Harold Percy Smith, they were charged with murder in 1939, for killing William Henry Edwards Dec 1938. They were both given the death sentence but were lucky to have it change to life with ‘No Parole’. Matilda Edwards was pregnant at the time and have found a newspaper article on her being able to have the child with her for the first year. Have found another newpaper article with Matilda Edwards being released in Dec 1951. Harold Smith died 1948.
Does anybody have anymore information for me?
Thanks
Hi there
Was wondering if you could do something about Brendon Abbott and also his mates that escaped Sir David Longlands, was interested in his run, you hear that many stories but would like to know the truth! Thankyou for your help I found your site very interesting! Thanks again!
Leanne Inall
PS I believe that an Ollie Lindsay was one of his mates that either served with him or was on the run with him from Sir David Longlands???? Could you please check that for me please and thanks!
Can someone please shed some light on christian vidler dob 9 may 1977 he has been in longbay jail
Hi Robbo
I have an interest in this stuff like you, please add Robert Potter for sex assault charges he assaulted numerous boys as a scout leader in Narwee, Sydney. I have info on him including the court Judgement on his criminal charges. I have included a couple of links below… and whats worse is he is due for Parole this year
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-news/scouts-ignored-sex-fiend-alarm/story-e6freuzi-1111116448501
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/scoutmaster-jailed-for-abuse/2005/12/12/1134235982904.html
Regan was a long-time compatriot of Karl “The Barber’ Bonnette. He was shot to death by the police.
Nobody seems to know anything about the murder of ‘Pommy’ Ray Morris, executed on his own doorstep in Darlinghurst.
james jeffrey leigh, known as the eastern suburbs rapist,, sentanced to 18 years jail for mass horrible rapes in circa 1978-80, would like to know update of what happened to him if poss… would feel happy if he is still behind bars
Has anyone heard of christian vidler i need to find out about him he has had had a significant impact in my life i need to contact him. He has been in longbay jail his brother patrick vidler is sargent of arms for the rebels motorcycle gang. Christians date of birth 9 may 1977 he has many aliases he has terry tattooed on his leg a dragon holding a ying yang on his forearm blake on his wrist and rachael tattoed down the inside of his arm and leg. My num is 0432647487 if he himself can contact me or anyone that knows of him. He cant hide forever i heard his last known place was nsw
I would like to find out more about Lindsay Robert Rose. I met this guy in early 1996 thru an irish friend who was going out with Lindays Friend. This guy ended up being, lets call it unstable. He married the irish girl, Lindsay was his best man , I was her maid of honour. After the wedding a lot of things changed. I would like to find out what happened to that irish girl. I only habe a fist name.
My family always say that I am killing my time here at net, but
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Honestly this list is a good thought but it cant be done. Our prisons as well as our community’s are literally overflowing with criminals.They are generally not monsters, They are brothers, fathers, children, just like everyone else. Every single person is capable of killing if put in the right circumstance, even you and me. Speaking from personal experience with dangerous criminals, Yes some are not right in the head, but mostly they are normal people. The amount of killers we have is way too vast and constantly growing to be docummented like this.
why do you put kid-killers and kid f*ckrs on that list, eh?
they hardly deserve to be called ‘crims’……they’re just vermin!
I have been searching for information about a woman that kidnapped children, drugged them and dyer thier hair bonde. From my understanding she did this to make them look more like her. From what I have been told she lived, and kept these children in a house in Silvan or somewhere in that area. I only know of the story but can’t find any information about it. I do not know the womans name which is making the search more difficult. If you know of her or know a site with information please let me know.
I was just informed from the person that told me about her that they think she was part of “the family” cult.
After being told that she had something to do with The Family I believe the story is about anne hamilton-byrne. thank you for your time. I was only told about the story earlier tonight after a friend decided to take us past a “haunted” house. All he knew about it was that a woman kidnapped children and drugged them. The house is not visable from the road. It is in some bushland and is overgrown and the driveway has now been blocked off for emergency use only. After finding out about it I just became very intrigued and had to find out the full story. Thanks again
Hi, can you please help. I was locked up with the bloke who was pinched on the ox blood amphetamine bust in Brisbane/ Gold Coast in the mid 90′s. I can’t for the life of me remember the old blokes name. Alls I can remember is his first name Dennis. Do you know who I’m referring to? Please put me out of my misery.
Cheers
Has anyone heard of Greek male twins in Canberra who were just two of five perpetrators of a gang rape early 1988, they were in their 20s. I was the victim but didn’t report it. Just wondered if anyone knows of them? Perhaps they did it again and got caught… Hope so.
Here is a scumbag for you BRENDON JOHN HENDERSON originaly from tasmania then south australia who is a convicted RAPIST , he was nearly bashed to death by his former friends who discovered that he was raping their women. they did not do a good enough job on him as he then raped me repeatedly and threatened my and my daughters life if i told my husband,well my husband does now know of this,unfortunately to late as brendon ,or cardog as he is known by has fled to good old queensland where it is rare to be extradited to south aus from, so he will no doubt hide out there as there is 4 arrest warrents out for him hopefully he will slip up and come back one day. good luck to those that have befriended him as he will soon shit on you too!
Can anyone help me with the details of a murder back in 1998 in Sydney CBD. From memory the victim was a naval seaman on or around Anzac Day if memory serves, who intervened as 2 men had committed a bag snatch or similar of a woman at at ATM machine, and he was knifed for his troubles. I’m after the names of the 2 culprits involved please.
Ronald gander
1st offence, fraud
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-10-29/man-jailed-over-brisbane-high-rise-fraud/576390
2nd, prostitution of a minor while dating a minor as well
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/buckets-of-chicken-nuggets-in-return-for-sex/story-e6freoof-1225698857465
Hello, there was the case of a guy named ‘Ram Tiwary’ who was convicted of double murder but freed on appeal last year. Does anyone have any stats on appeals to the CCA – i.e. how many are rejected outright, how many go to re-trials and how many are acquittals. Seems this acquittal business is very, very rare.
To the two Geelong men who raped me on the way home from church one Sunday night. You know who you are. Why did your solicitor ask me to go soft on you? Why did the Magistrate let you walk. You should be retried and locked up regardless of the years between. I haven’t forgotten. I bet you both went on to rape and pillage if not kill. Yes YOU in the shiney blue and white BUICK. Assholes.
Dose anyone know what caused Malcolm Baker to go on a shooting spree back in 1992 ?
does anyone know of the man who raped and murdered a female in Victoria and cut off her fingers and also cut her from her vagina up her stomach…? cant find anything on the internet about it