Should priests retain the right to Confidentiality ?


“PREMIER Ted Baillieu has backed the right of priests to keep private what is said in the confessional”

 

Robbo says Sacrosanct confessions need to be abolished

I wonder if he would still say that if a man confessed to killing one of his family members and the case was unsolved?

They keep enough secrets among themselves already with child sex abuse and so on. As a survivor of abuse in the catholic church myself, they should not have these special conditions for others, or themselves For example they should tell authorities when they become aware of sexual abuse among their own men in cloth

WE get enough covered up at it is. It should be impeding an investigation or something, it is akin to aiding an abetting a criminal,but that is my opinion, what is yours folks?

It has been revealed that a parliamentary committee would consider forcing priests to reveal reports of abuse heard during confession.

Mr Baillieu pointed to an earlier inquiry, headed by Justice Philip Cummins, that came out against the requirement.

He said members of that inquiry “all concluded that the sanctity of the confessional should remain”.

“I think that’s a powerful argument,” Mr Baillieu said.

Labor MP Frank McGuire, the deputy chair of the parliamentary committee, yesterday said the inquiry should be conducted by a retired judge or eminent senior counsel.

“This is an inquiry into whether heinous crimes against children have been covered up, and what laws, policies and procedures need to be changed,” Mr McGuire said.

“The inquiry is too important for politics.”

Australian Catholic University law professor Fr Frank Brennan said the move would be a restriction on religious freedom.

“I am one of the priests who, if such a law were enacted, would disobey it and, if need be, I would go to jail,” Fr Brennan said.

Melbourne Victims’ Collective co-ordinator Helen Last welcomed the proposal.

“Priests need to be mandated to report from within the confessional and without the confessional, and they urgently need to be trained about appropriately referring victims,” Ms Last said.

The Cummins Report called for a new law for mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse in religious organisations.

“An exemption for information received during the rite of confession should be made,” the report said.

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Derek Percy,Sick killer’s $32,000 pay day


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Derek Percy is a convicted child killer suspected of involvement in the murder of seven-year-old Linda Stilwell

A PENSIONER whose daughter was abducted and murdered has been ordered to pay child killer Derek Percy more than $32,000.

The Supreme Court has ordered Jean Priest, 72, must pay Percy’s legal bill after she lost the first stage of her fight to force him to give evidence about his suspected part in the killing of her daughter, seven-year-old Linda Stilwell, in 1968.

Ms Priest, pictured holding a cherished photo of Linda, is a community volunteer who lives in a retirement village.

She says she could be bankrupted by Percy, who has amassed a fortune of up to $300,000 from a navy pension he receives in jail.

The grieving grandmother plans one last bid for justice before the Court of Appeal, but she may face a total legal bill from Percy of $80,000 if that appeal fails.

“We now have a bill for $32,247 and I don’t know how I am going to pay that. I have no way of doing that,” a tearful Ms Priest told the Herald Sun.

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“I can’t sleep at night. Prisoners seem to have all the rights, victims have no rights.”

Percy, 62, is Victoria’s longest-serving prisoner and remains in jail for the mutilation killing of Yvonne Tuohy, 12, less than 12 months after Linda disappeared.

Linda’s body has never been found. Percy has been linked to nine child killings in the late 1960s across several states.

He was prosecuted only for Yvonne Tuohy’s death, where he was found not guilty by reason of insanity – a technicality that allows him to continue receiving his navy pension.

“I feel I’ve got to go as far as I possibly can for Linda,” Ms Priest said. She added that she was “physically sick” when told she might have to pay $80,000 in legal fees to Percy if the appeal were lost.

Ms Priest said she would continue to try to find her daughter’s body so she could be finally laid to rest with some dignity.

“The coroner found Derek Percy was in St Kilda on that day and only metres from her,” she said.

“What is the possibility that there could be two child murderers in that kind of area at the same time?

“We need her body so that we can have a resting place for her.

“I believe he did it. I just can’t bare to think of what he did to her.”

Both Deputy State Coroner Iain West and Supreme Court Justice Iain Ross declined to force Percy to give evidence because of his apparent psychosis at the time of the abduction and the potential his evidence would be unreliable.

Ms Priest’s barristers, Elizabeth McKinnon and Simon Gillespie-Jones, would not comment.

Before the ruling on costs went against Ms Priest, Herald Sun readers late last year pledged $7300 towards her pending legal bill.

“I’d like to thank the readers of the Herald Sun for the help they have given me. I just wonder if anybody else can help because it’s financial ruin,” she said.

 

Derek Percy,Sick killer's $32,000 pay day


Percy

Derek Percy is a convicted child killer suspected of involvement in the murder of seven-year-old Linda Stilwell

A PENSIONER whose daughter was abducted and murdered has been ordered to pay child killer Derek Percy more than $32,000.

The Supreme Court has ordered Jean Priest, 72, must pay Percy’s legal bill after she lost the first stage of her fight to force him to give evidence about his suspected part in the killing of her daughter, seven-year-old Linda Stilwell, in 1968.

Ms Priest, pictured holding a cherished photo of Linda, is a community volunteer who lives in a retirement village.

She says she could be bankrupted by Percy, who has amassed a fortune of up to $300,000 from a navy pension he receives in jail.

The grieving grandmother plans one last bid for justice before the Court of Appeal, but she may face a total legal bill from Percy of $80,000 if that appeal fails.

“We now have a bill for $32,247 and I don’t know how I am going to pay that. I have no way of doing that,” a tearful Ms Priest told the Herald Sun.

RELATED COVERAGE

“I can’t sleep at night. Prisoners seem to have all the rights, victims have no rights.”

Percy, 62, is Victoria’s longest-serving prisoner and remains in jail for the mutilation killing of Yvonne Tuohy, 12, less than 12 months after Linda disappeared.

Linda’s body has never been found. Percy has been linked to nine child killings in the late 1960s across several states.

He was prosecuted only for Yvonne Tuohy’s death, where he was found not guilty by reason of insanity – a technicality that allows him to continue receiving his navy pension.

“I feel I’ve got to go as far as I possibly can for Linda,” Ms Priest said. She added that she was “physically sick” when told she might have to pay $80,000 in legal fees to Percy if the appeal were lost.

Ms Priest said she would continue to try to find her daughter’s body so she could be finally laid to rest with some dignity.

“The coroner found Derek Percy was in St Kilda on that day and only metres from her,” she said.

“What is the possibility that there could be two child murderers in that kind of area at the same time?

“We need her body so that we can have a resting place for her.

“I believe he did it. I just can’t bare to think of what he did to her.”

Both Deputy State Coroner Iain West and Supreme Court Justice Iain Ross declined to force Percy to give evidence because of his apparent psychosis at the time of the abduction and the potential his evidence would be unreliable.

Ms Priest’s barristers, Elizabeth McKinnon and Simon Gillespie-Jones, would not comment.

Before the ruling on costs went against Ms Priest, Herald Sun readers late last year pledged $7300 towards her pending legal bill.

“I’d like to thank the readers of the Herald Sun for the help they have given me. I just wonder if anybody else can help because it’s financial ruin,” she said.

 

Your offers for help have amazed me guys!


Hi everybody, hope you all had a great Christmas and have good plans for a fantastic safe (HOT new years eve) New year.I am so happy some of you have put your hand up to help out here and build on what I started and make it a real community. I have been a little indulgent in taking a few days off with the Melbourne Boxing day test on and a recovering from too much everything at Christmas but am nor rearing to go again. I was actually so tempted to jump on and post stuff that was “Shitting me” but thought the country will survive a few days without my insignificant input…

So I have saved all your details and will be getting back to you all in the morning with some great ideas and plans for 2011. What a way to kick it off with the news of the new year. Look out for an email and details on getting signed up as a  wordpress member, as it seems that is required to be a contributor/author here at wordpress. The great thing about that is it enables you to do stories/updates/feedback via email, iphone, the web, any computer etc. So whenever the need arises you can jump on and do your thing.

 

Thanks guys and gals, looking forward to all your obvious expertise. Making this place a better more switched on place…