UPDATE-Gerard Baden-Clay will return to court on September 3 2012


Previous threads can be found using the links below, One being very first and so on…

One (26/04/12) here Two (14/05/12)  here Three (17/05/12) here Four (20/05/2012) here Five  (23/05/12) here Six (26/05/12) here Seven (28/05/12) here Eight (30/0512) here Nine (02/06/12) here Ten (08/06/12) here Eleven (11/06/12) here  Twelve 13/06/12 here Thirteen 17/06/12 here Fourteen 20/06/12 here Fifteen 22/06/12 here Sixteen 24/06/12 here Seventeen 26/06/12 here

A MAGISTRATE said he was “flabbergasted” that police would need four to five months to scour Gerard Baden-Clay’s finances – a process set to delay court proceedings.

The Money trail will take months to unravel

Prosecutor Danny Boyle told Magistrate Chris Callaghan they would be unable to give Baden-Clay’s defence team the full brief of evidence because an investigative accountant would need until mid November to analyse bank accounts and insurance policies.

Baden-Clay, 41, who did not appear today, is charged with murdering his wife Allison on April 19 and dumping her body on the banks of a creek.

An earlier court hearing was told Baden-Clay is $1 million in debt and stood to gain about that from his wife’s life insurance and superannuation policies.

Mr Boyle said police were also waiting on computer and phone examinations, as well as post mortem results.

“The post mortem tests are outstanding … the forensics pathologist was away last week and this week until Wednesday,” he said.

A recent court hearing heard police still do not have a cause of death.

Police have so far taken statements from 330 people and still have another 50 to 100 to go.

“The investigative accountant is still to come,” Mr Boyle said.

“The accountant has indicated that it will be mid November.”

Magistrate Callaghan said he was shocked it could take so long.

“You’re joking, aren’t you,” he said.

“I can’t believe for a minute that it’s going to take five months for an accountant to look into the finances of one person.”

Mr Boyle said the records were “voluminous”.

Magistrate Callaghan ordered that the brief of evidence be handed to the defence by no later than August 20, except for the accountant’s statement.

The matter will return to court on September 3 for a committal mention.

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Gerard Baden-Clay-How does the Puzzle look on MOTIVE?


Murder shall be taken to have been committed where the act of the accused, or thing by him or her omitted to be done, causing the death charged, was done or omitted with reckless indifference to human life, or with intent to kill or inflict grievous bodily harm upon some person, or done in an attempt to commit, or during or immediately after the commission, by the accused, or some accomplice with him or her, of a crime…

This high profile case has captured the imagination of everybody it seems. From the day Allison went missing,  the suspicious behaviour of her husband, to the search, The discovery of her body, The funeral, The investigation, The media, and Arrest which came from nowhere and then the Bail application, the Bomb Threat, then Bail was denied and now GBC is on remand in Jail

So here we are many months later and what do we have. We obviously have a highly circumstantial case of Murder against Gerard Baden-Clay at the moment.

I think any ONE aspect taken in isolation could be seen to be suspicious.

But as one links all the pieces together they start to paint a much bigger picture.

Means, Motive, and Opportunity is a popular cultural summation of the three aspects of a crime needed to convince a jury of guilt in a criminal proceeding. Respectively, they refer to: the ability of the defendant to commit the crime (means), the reason the defendant had to commit the crime (motive), and whether or not the defendant had the chance to commit the crime (opportunity). Opportunity is most often disproved by use of an alibi, which can prove the accused was not able to commit the crime as he or she did not have the correct set of circumstances to commit the crime. Ironically, motive is not an element of many crimes, but proving motive can often make it easier to convince a jury of the elements that must be proved for a conviction. Furthermore, a showing of the presence of these three elements is not, in and of itself, sufficient to convict beyond a reasonable doubt; the evidence must prove that an opportunity presented was indeed taken by the accused and for the crime with which he or she is charged.

Motive, that being the massive financial debt, the affairs and the promise to leave his wife to his mistress, Toni McHugh.

Opportunity, did Gerard have the opportunity to murder his wife. Could of someone else done it? Was he helped in anyway?

Means, if he did murder her, How did he go about it. How was she killed?, where was she killed?, When did it happen?, Where was she taken? The list goes on.

The pieces of clues to this puzzle are significant and reach wide. We are going to have a go at documenting them right here folks UNDER THE FOLLOWING HEADINGS

MOTIVE

that being the massive financial debt, the affairs and the promise to leave his wife to his mistress, Toni McHugh.

PLEASE KEEP ALL DISCUSSION ON THIS THREAD TO THIS SUBJECT ONLY

I will use my discretion and delete irrelevant comments

MOTIVE thread

OPPORTUNITY thread

MEANS thread

Gerard Baden-Clay-How does the Puzzle look on OPPORTUNITY?


Murder shall be taken to have been committed where the act of the accused, or thing by him or her omitted to be done, causing the death charged, was done or omitted with reckless indifference to human life, or with intent to kill or inflict grievous bodily harm upon some person, or done in an attempt to commit, or during or immediately after the commission, by the accused, or some accomplice with him or her, of a crime…

This high profile case has captured the imagination of everybody it seems. From the day Allison went missing,  the suspicious behaviour of her husband, to the search, The discovery of her body, The funeral, The investigation, The media, and Arrest which came from nowhere and then the Bail application, the Bomb Threat, then Bail was denied and now GBC is on remand in Jail

So here we are many months later and what do we have. We obviously have a highly circumstantial case of Murder against Gerard Baden-Clay at the moment.

I think any ONE aspect taken in isolation could be seen to be suspicious.

But as one links all the pieces together they start to paint a much bigger picture.

Means, Motive, and Opportunity is a popular cultural summation of the three aspects of a crime needed to convince a jury of guilt in a criminal proceeding. Respectively, they refer to: the ability of the defendant to commit the crime (means), the reason the defendant had to commit the crime (motive), and whether or not the defendant had the chance to commit the crime (opportunity). Opportunity is most often disproved by use of an alibi, which can prove the accused was not able to commit the crime as he or she did not have the correct set of circumstances to commit the crime. Ironically, motive is not an element of many crimes, but proving motive can often make it easier to convince a jury of the elements that must be proved for a conviction. Furthermore, a showing of the presence of these three elements is not, in and of itself, sufficient to convict beyond a reasonable doubt; the evidence must prove that an opportunity presented was indeed taken by the accused and for the crime with which he or she is charged.

Motive, that being the massive financial debt, the affairs and the promise to leave his wife to his mistress, Toni McHugh.

Opportunity, did Gerard have the opportunity to murder his wife. Could of someone else done it? Was he helped in anyway?

Means, if he did murder her, How did he go about it. How was she killed?, where was she killed?, When did it happen?, Where was she taken? The list goes on.

The pieces of clues to this puzzle are significant and reach wide. We are going to have a go at documenting them right here folks UNDER THE FOLLOWING HEADINGS

OPPORTUNITY

Did Gerard have the opportunity to murder his wife? Could of someone else done it? Was he/she  helped in anyway?

PLEASE KEEP ALL DISCUSSION ON THIS THREAD TO THIS SUBJECT ONLY

I will use my discretion and delete irrelevant comments

MOTIVE thread

OPPORTUNITY thread

MEANS thread


Gerard Baden-Clay-How does the Puzzle look on MEANS?


Murder shall be taken to have been committed where the act of the accused, or thing by him or her omitted to be done, causing the death charged, was done or omitted with reckless indifference to human life, or with intent to kill or inflict grievous bodily harm upon some person, or done in an attempt to commit, or during or immediately after the commission, by the accused, or some accomplice with him or her, of a crime…

This high profile case has captured the imagination of everybody it seems. From the day Allison went missing,  the suspicious behaviour of her husband, to the search, The discovery of her body, The funeral, The investigation, The media, and Arrest which came from nowhere and then the Bail application, the Bomb Threat, then Bail was denied and now GBC is on remand in Jail

So here we are many months later and what do we have. We obviously have a highly circumstantial case of Murder against Gerard Baden-Clay at the moment.

I think any ONE aspect taken in isolation could be seen to be suspicious.

But as one links all the pieces together they start to paint a much bigger picture.

Means, Motive, and Opportunity is a popular cultural summation of the three aspects of a crime needed to convince a jury of guilt in a criminal proceeding. Respectively, they refer to: the ability of the defendant to commit the crime (means), the reason the defendant had to commit the crime (motive), and whether or not the defendant had the chance to commit the crime (opportunity). Opportunity is most often disproved by use of an alibi, which can prove the accused was not able to commit the crime as he or she did not have the correct set of circumstances to commit the crime. Ironically, motive is not an element of many crimes, but proving motive can often make it easier to convince a jury of the elements that must be proved for a conviction. Furthermore, a showing of the presence of these three elements is not, in and of itself, sufficient to convict beyond a reasonable doubt; the evidence must prove that an opportunity presented was indeed taken by the accused and for the crime with which he or she is charged.

Motive, that being the massive financial debt, the affairs and the promise to leave his wife to his mistress, Toni McHugh.

Opportunity, did Gerard have the opportunity to murder his wife. Could of someone else done it? Was he helped in anyway?

Means, if he did murder her, How did he go about it. How was she killed?, where was she killed?, When did it happen?, Where was she taken? The list goes on.

The pieces of clues to this puzzle are significant and reach wide. We are going to have a go at documenting them right here folks UNDER THE FOLLOWING HEADINGS

MEANS

If he did murder her, How did he go about it. How was she killed?, where was she killed?, When did it happen?, Where was she taken?

PLEASE KEEP ALL DISCUSSION ON THIS THREAD TO THIS SUBJECT ONLY

I will use my discretion and delete irrelevant comments

MOTIVE thread

OPPORTUNITY thread

MEANS thread

Gerard Baden-Clay-How does the Puzzle look?


Murder shall be taken to have been committed where the act of the accused, or thing by him or her omitted to be done, causing the death charged, was done or omitted with reckless indifference to human life, or with intent to kill or inflict grievous bodily harm upon some person, or done in an attempt to commit, or during or immediately after the commission, by the accused, or some accomplice with him or her, of a crime…

This high profile case has captured the imagination of everybody it seems. From the day Allison went missing,  the suspicious behaviour of her husband, to the search, The discovery of her body, The funeral, The investigation, The media, and Arrest which came from nowhere and then the Bail application, the Bomb Threat, then Bail was denied and now GBC is on remand in Jail

So here we are many months later and what do we have. We obviously have a highly circumstantial case of Murder against Gerard Baden-Clay at the moment.

I think any ONE aspect taken in isolation could be seen to be suspicious.

But as one links all the pieces together they start to paint a much bigger picture.

Means, Motive, and Opportunity is a popular cultural summation of the three aspects of a crime needed to convince a jury of guilt in a criminal proceeding. Respectively, they refer to: the ability of the defendant to commit the crime (means), the reason the defendant had to commit the crime (motive), and whether or not the defendant had the chance to commit the crime (opportunity). Opportunity is most often disproved by use of an alibi, which can prove the accused was not able to commit the crime as he or she did not have the correct set of circumstances to commit the crime. Ironically, motive is not an element of many crimes, but proving motive can often make it easier to convince a jury of the elements that must be proved for a conviction. Furthermore, a showing of the presence of these three elements is not, in and of itself, sufficient to convict beyond a reasonable doubt; the evidence must prove that an opportunity presented was indeed taken by the accused and for the crime with which he or she is charged.

Motive, that being the massive financial debt, the affairs and the promise to leave his wife to his mistress, Toni McHugh.

Opportunity, did Gerard have the opportunity to murder his wife. Could of someone else done it? Was he helped in anyway?

Means, if he did murder her, How did he go about it. How was she killed?, where was she killed?, When did it happen?, Where was she taken? The list goes on.

The pieces of clues to this puzzle are significant and reach wide. We are going to have a go at documenting them right here folks UNDER THE FOLLOWING HEADINGS

MOTIVE thread

OPPORTUNITY thread

MEANS thread

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Robbo

Allison Baden-Clay Killer(s) still not arrested…Makes one wonder!


Previous threads can be found using the links below, One being very first and so on…

One (26/04/12) here Two (14/05/12)  here Three (17/05/12) here Four (20/05/2012) here Five  (23/05/12) here Six (26/05/12) here Seven (28/05/12) here Eight (30/0512) here Nine (02/06/12) here Ten (08/06/12) here

Hi folks well we are around 2 months into this sorry saga and as it stands, we have a Killer or Killers still out there.

  • The facts are, one or more person known to Allison killed her.
  • Maybe one or more others known to her, helped in the crime and or after the fact.
  • Maybe one or more others known to her, helped in transporting her body
  • Maybe one or more others known to her, helped in Disposing her body
  • Maybe one or more others known to her, helped in clean up of one or more crime scenes

The rest is in the previous multitude of Posts and thousands of good bad and ugly theories, Various Modus operandi ,comments  and arguments etc here on the site, can be found up the top or via these links.

Here is a gallery of all the pictures that have captured what are sure to be revealed as pivotal moments in this tragedy as well as ensuring the conviction of the perpetrators involved.

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update 12/06/12

Allison Baden-Clay murder: Rumour of indemnity application for accessory rejected

QUEENSLAND’S top lawmaker has denied claims he’s been approached to grant immunity to a suspect in the murder of Allison Baden-Clay, but says he would be happy to consider such an application by police in the future.

Attorney-General Jarrod Bleijie yesterday blasted Ipswich councillor Paul Tully for blogging about an alleged offer of immunity from prosecution to a person who may face charges over the murder, as an accessory before or after the fact.

“If the police put in a request I have the power to grant immunity to someone if they believe they can get someone by evidence that’s going to incriminate someone else, but I haven’t had that approach as far as I know,” he said.

“I’d just caution Cr Tully from spectacularly blogging about murder cases in Queensland and encourage him to get back to his constituents.

“He’s not a journalist, he’s a councillor.”

Mr Bleijie said the application was not unheard of, and he’d granted immunity in the past because sometimes it was “better to get the real bad person rather than the underlings”.

Allison’s in-laws: ‘Expect more, worse’

Baden-Clay business dries up after murder

Police return Baden-Clay’s impounded 4WD

Search teams in to bat for Allison’s girls

Cause of death may remain secret

Focus stays on clues in killer search

Baden-Clay breaks silence on business

Baden-Clay murder case goes south

“But in terms of this particular case, I haven’t signed off or seen anything and neither has my office,” he said.

“If anything does come, I’ve got to look at the evidence and make an assessment on it.

“I can’t make an assessment yet because I haven’t received anything; not saying that I’m not going to in the future.”

Cr Tully said on his blog any deal which the police considered necessary to put a murderer behind bars would be a “totally appropriate way of ensuring that justice is finally done in this bizarre case”.

“Although the police have a prime suspect for the murder and apparently have no doubt whatsoever about that person’s guilt, they are apparently facing some serious evidentiary problems in proving their case beyond reasonable doubt before a judge and jury,” Cr Tully wrote on his blog.

“If the evidence of a reluctant accessory would overcome that evidentiary difficulty and ensure the guilty party is brought to justice, it would be a powerful inducement to a person in such predicament to give evidence against the murderer in exchange for an iron-clad deal to give them legal immunity from prosecution.

“Normally, such immunities are rarely given early in a murder investigation.”

Police said yesterday there was no basis for the speculation, and asked if Cr Tully could call them should he have “any information or inside gossip” in the future.

When asked about the strength of his sources, Cr Tully told The Courier-Mail they were “reliable, but not impeccable”.

Cr Tully also wrote that the Crime and Misconduct Commission may already be using its “star chamber” coercive powers to make people talk.

A spokeswoman for the CMC yesterday said the commission could neither confirm nor deny involvement.

Please read this before you go on to read the rest and comment though folks!

I would personally like to make a plea to those of you who choose to make comments, to do so with due consideration to the circumstances surrounding this case and the 3 wonderful little girls lives have been destroyed.

WE all want answers and certainly Justice for Allison Baden-Clay and her family and we can honour her memory by trying to stay respectful of each other on here, whether or not you have formed an opinion on who is the guilty and who are not. Lots of ordinary folks like me and you have dedicated a lot of time to sit down and share themselves so we can have a collective place to delve into the who, where’s and whys of such a terrible crime.

WE are not judge or jury, that is obvious, and each and every one of you is entitled to say what you think, all I’m asking is NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, agree to disagree, and if it needs to be, just do not interact with a commenter you feel uneasy or judged by. You are welcome to contact me with any concerns as I will be stamping my foot down on the type of personal attack that sends valued contributors away

Anyone found with multiple names/pseudonyms or re-signs as a “New person” will be BANNED…

Obviously I understand the one household who may use the same connection and use different names.

I can see NO other legitimate reason to pretend to be another (new) contributor etc. behave and you can be who you are. simple…

Recent Summary

ALLISON Baden-Clay’s cause of death may remain a closely guarded secret until her killer is charged after investigating officers yesterday ruled out releasing the key detail.

How Mrs Baden-Clay died has been one of the primary questions since her body was discovered under the Kholo Creek bridge at Anstead on April 30, 11 days after she was last seen alive in her Brookfield home.

Police commonly withhold the cause of death in murder investigations and yesterday said they would not be officially commenting on how Mrs Baden-Clay died.

“We won’t be releasing any details in relation to the cause of death at all,” Detective Superintendent Mark Ainsworth said yesterday.

But shortly after the grim discovery of her body police had clear views on how Mrs Baden-Clay died, people close to the case have told The Sunday Mail.

It is understood Mrs Baden-Clay’s body was cleared for release for burial only a day after she was found, with police confident they had the information they needed.
In other developments, Mrs Baden-Clay’s husband, Gerard, is yet to gain formal approval for a relocation of his Century 21 Westside franchise from Taringa to Toowong.

In a rare public comment since his wife’s death, Mr Baden-Clay last week said it was “business as usual” in the new location.

However Century 21 owner Charles Tarbey yesterday said he was yet to receive the required application to relocate the business.

Mr Tarbey – who last week told The Sunday Mail he had spoken to Mr Baden-Clay a number of times since his wife disappeared – gave a routine statement to detectives in Brisbane on Friday.

Police also declined to comment on reports that NSW detectives had interviewed a Sydney woman who met Mr Baden-Clay at a Gold Coast real estate conference.

Investigations continue from Indooroopilly police station. Supt Ainsworth confirmed: “The major incident room is still continuing to run.”

 

Allison Baden-Clay Murder Investigation continues here…


Previous threads can be found using the links below

Original First Post (26/04/12) here Second updated Post (14/05/12)  here Third Updated Post  (17/05/12) here Fourth Updated Post (20th may 2012) here Fifth Updated Post  (23/05/12) here

Sixth Updated Post (26/05/12) here Seventh Updated Post (28/05/12) here Eighth Updated Post  (30/0512) here Ninth Updated Post (02/06/12) here

Hi all I have started a new thread for everyone to continues the discussion. These last few days things have gone a little crazy,I have been at the hospital with my sick son! Please think about what you write here and show respect. I have not been here to oversee the commnets and it is sad to hear people abusing the guidelines I set…I will update this, and take some action as required when I get back later today…Thanks

09/06/12 UPDATE FROM THE COURIER MAIL THIS MORNING…NOTHING MAJOR, NOR SURPRISING, GERARD’S BUSINESS IS GOING DOWN….(NEED A WOOLIES DOWN DOWN FINGER)

BUSINESS within the real estate operation owned by the husband of murdered mum Allison Baden-Clay has all but ground to a halt in the seven weeks since his wife went missing.

There are no new house listings on his website or realestate.com and industry experts say they don’t know how his Century 21 Westside franchise will survive.

Mr Baden-Clay told The Courier-Mail it was “business as usual” after relocating from Taringa to Toowong last week and a staff member confirmed yesterday that was still the case.

“We’re all still working,” the receptionist told The Courier-Mail yesterday morning. “It is still business as usual.”

There are only two houses listed for sale on the Century 21 Westside website, but it’s understood they were sold before his 43-year-old wife’s body was found at Kholo Creek, Anstead, in Brisbane’s west, on April 30.

Police are yet to reveal a cause of death because it would hamper the investigation, but they believe Mrs Baden-Clay knew her killer.

The Courier-Mail revealed this week that the white Prado driven by Mrs Baden-Clay had been returned to her husband, who was now driving it again.

It’s unknown what has happened to the silver Holden Captiva he used to drive.

Meanwhile, the Brookfield community is still raising money for the trust fund set up for the welfare of the couple’s three daughters.

Mr Baden-Clay does not have access to the trust.

A cricket day fund-raiser will be held at Brookfield Show-grounds on June 24 and anybody wanting to donate raffle prizes are urged to email Mike Kaye.

If anybody has any information that can help police in their inquiries into Mrs Baden-Clay’s murder, call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

The Investigation in Allison’s Murder continues

Please read this before you go on to read the rest and comment though folks!

I would personally like to make a plea to those of you who choose to make comments, to do so with due consideration to the circumstances surrounding this case and the 3 wonderful little girls lives have been destroyed.

WE all want answers and certainly Justice for Allison Baden-Clay and her family and we can honour her memory by trying to stay respectful of each other on here, whether or not you have formed an opinion on who is the guilty and who are not. Lots of ordinary folks like me and you have dedicated a lot of time to sit down and share themselves so we can have a collective place to delve into the who, where’s and whys of such a terrible crime.

WE are not judge or jury, that is obvious, and each and every one of you is entitled to say what you think, all I’m asking is NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, agree to disagree, and if it needs to be, just do not interact with a commenter you feel uneasy or judged by. You are welcome to contact me with any concerns as I will be stamping my foot down on the type of personal attack that sends valued contributors away and anyone found with multiple names/pseudonyms or resigns as a “New person” will be BANNED… I can see NO legit reason to pretend to be another (new) contributor etc. behave and you can be who you are simple…

Sound fair?

Thanks…Robbo

The post from Paul Tully folks are commenting about is here…

Allison Baden-Clay Murder: Is the Attorney-General planning to offer prosecution immunity?


The apparent slowdown in the police investigation into the murder of Brookfield mother of three Allison Baden-Clay has triggered sensational suggestions the police will seek approval from the Queensland Attorney-General Hon Jarrod Bleijie to offer immunity from prosecution to a person facing charges over the murder, as an accessory before or after the fact.
Speculation has been rife that several acquaintances of the murderer face charges as accessories to the murder.
Although the police have a prime suspect for the murder and apparently have no doubt whatsoever about that person’s guilt, they are apparently facing some serious evidentiary problems in proving their case beyond reasonable doubt before a judge and jury.
If the evidence of a reluctant accessory would overcome that evidentiary difficulty and ensure the guilty party is brought to justice, it would be a powerful inducement to a person in such predicament to give evidence against the murderer in exchange for an iron-clad deal to give them legal immunity from prosecution.
Normally, such immunities are rarely given early in a murder investigation.
But this is such an unusual case which has captured the hearts and minds of all Queenslanders, any deal which the police consider necessary to put the actual murderer behind bars would be a totally appropriate way of ensuring that justice is finally done in this bizarre case.
If reports are true, the Indooroopilly Police Station quietly nestled between Moggill Road to the south and Vincent Street to the north is about to explode into a hive of activity when the murderer is brought in for questioning and is formally charged with the murder of Allison Baden-Clay.
Only then will the people of Brookfield breathe easy and her family will finally achieve the peace they deserve.
In the meantime, the CMC may already be using its “Star Chamber” coercive powers to make people talk.  The public is never told about this and those appearing before these secret CMC interrogations must answer the questions put to them – on pain of major fines and jail sentences.  If the police have conscripted the CMC to do this – in order to get admissions and confessions from anyone connected with the case – then we are likely to never know.

Focus on clues in search for killer of Allison Baden-Clay


Previous threads can be found using the links below

Original First Post (26/04/12) here Second updated Post (14/05/12)  here Third Updated Post  (17/05/12) here Fourth Updated Post (20th may 2012) here Fifth Updated Post  (23/05/12) here

Sixth Updated Post (26/05/12) here Seventh Updated Post (28/05/12) here Eighth Updated Post  (30/0512) here

Gerard Baden-Clay, and wife Allison (inset)

UPDATE 03/06/12

ALLISON Baden-Clay’s cause of death may remain a closely guarded secret until her killer is charged after investigating officers yesterday ruled out releasing the key detail.

How Mrs Baden-Clay died has been one of the primary questions since her body was discovered under the Kholo Creek bridge at Anstead on April 30, 11 days after she was last seen alive in her Brookfield home.

Police commonly withhold the cause of death in murder investigations and yesterday said they would not be officially commenting on how Mrs Baden-Clay died.

“We won’t be releasing any details in relation to the cause of death at all,” Detective Superintendent Mark Ainsworth said yesterday.

But shortly after the grim discovery of her body police had clear views on how Mrs Baden-Clay died, people close to the case have told The Sunday Mail.

It is understood Mrs Baden-Clay’s body was cleared for release for burial only a day after she was found, with police confident they had the information they needed.
In other developments, Mrs Baden-Clay’s husband, Gerard, is yet to gain formal approval for a relocation of his Century 21 Westside franchise from Taringa to Toowong.

In a rare public comment since his wife’s death, Mr Baden-Clay last week said it was “business as usual” in the new location.
However Century 21 owner Charles Tarbey yesterday said he was yet to receive the required application to relocate the business.

Mr Tarbey – who last week told The Sunday Mail he had spoken to Mr Baden-Clay a number of times since his wife disappeared – gave a routine statement to detectives in Brisbane on Friday.

Police also declined to comment on reports that NSW detectives had interviewed a Sydney woman who met Mr Baden-Clay at a Gold Coast real estate conference.

Investigations continue from Indooroopilly police station. Supt Ainsworth confirmed: “The major incident room is still continuing to run.”

Clues to the mystery

POLICE are sifting through key clues as evidence mounts in the hunt to find Allison Baden-Clay’s killer.

The cars belonging to the murdered 43-year-old mother-of-three and her husband Gerard Baden-Clay remain impounded and police are still keen to speak to anyone who might have seen either the white Toyota Prado or silver Holden Captiva or similar cars around the time Mrs Baden-Clay disappeared.

Several questions and alleged discrepancies still remain in the murder investigation, including the timing of her walk, screams heard by residents in another part of Brookfield shortly after she was last seen alive and whether her body was moved by heavy rains or dumped where she was found under the Mt Crosby bridge at Kholo Creek in Anstead.

Mr Baden-Clay has remained tight-lipped about the events surrounding his wife’s disappearance and subsequent murder but said she had not been upset the last time he saw her, which was at their Brookfield home at 10pm on Thursday, April 19.

It’s understood he organised for his sister Olivia Walton to fly down from Townsville this weekend and is receiving ongoing help and support from other family and friends, particularly as he struggles to keep his Century 21 real estate business going and raise his three daughters.

This week, he relocated from his Taringa office to level 5 of Toowong Tower.

Through his lawyer, Mr Baden-Clay has repeatedly refused to publicly discuss or even clarify the circumstances of his wife’s disappearance.

On the day she was last seen alive, Mrs Baden-Clay reportedly had her hair done and looked really well.

The following day, on Friday, April 20, she had a full itinerary, including a work forum in the city and had planned to drop her three daughters off to a slumber party that night.

Police are confident Mrs Baden-Clay knew her killer but are investigating the possibility he or she received help from an accomplice.

Police and Corrective Services Minister Jack Dempsey said he understood the widespread interest in the case and applauded the efforts of police and emergency officers so far.

“The community has taken that investigation to their hearts,” he said.

“We’ll make sure everything is done properly and they (police) know that all of the state’s behind them.”

Anyone with information on the disappearance and murder should call Crimestoppers on 1800 333 000.

Police believe the key to solving the murder lies in clues around these 5 specific areas of interest

Please read this before you go on to read the rest and comment though folks!

I would personally like to make a plea to those of you who choose to make comments, to do so with due consideration to the circumstances surrounding this case and the 3 wonderful little girls lives have been destroyed.

WE all want answers and certainly Justice for Allison Baden-Clay and her family and we can honour her memory by trying to stay respectful of each other on here, whether or not you have formed an opinion on who is the guilty and who are not. Lots of ordinary folks like me and you have dedicated a lot of time to sit down and share themselves so we can have a collective place to delve into the who, where’s and whys of such a terrible crime.

WE are not judge or jury, that is obvious, and each and every one of you is entitled to say what you think, all I’m asking is NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, agree to disagree, and if it needs to be, just do not interact with a commenter you feel uneasy or judged by. You are welcome to contact me with any concerns as I will be stamping my foot down on the type of personal attack that sends valued contributors away and anyone found with multiple names/pseudonyms or resigns as a “New person” will be BANNED… I can see NO legit reason to pretend to be another (new) contributor etc. behave and you can be who you are simple…

Sound fair?

Thanks…Robbo

Allison Baden-Clay-toxicology results released- Arrests closer


Will this mean we are closer to any arrest or arrests with the reports being completed and released? It has been a slow methodical process investigating this terrible murder and anyone with a heart would hope her killer(s) are off the streets sooner rather than later…How her Husband can his trap all this time and think I better say something about my business, gee the rumour was we closed…That is just another bizarre act that defies logic by him. I just hope they got a years rent up front…

Please read this before you go on to read the rest and comment though folks!

I would personally like to make a plea to those of you who choose to make comments, to do so with due consideration to the circumstances surrounding this case and the 3 wonderful little girls lives have been destroyed.

WE all want answers and certainly Justice for Allison Baden-Clay and her family and we can honour her memory by trying to stay respectful of each other on here, whether or not you have formed an opinion on who is the guilty and who are not. Lots of ordinary folks like me and you have dedicated a lot of time to sit down and share themselves so we can have a collective place to delve into the who, where’s and whys of such a terrible crime.

WE are not judge or jury, that is obvious, and each and every one of you is entitled to say what you think, all I’m asking is NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, agree to disagree, and if it needs to be, just do not interact with a commenter you feel uneasy or judged by. You are welcome to contact me with any concerns as I will be stamping my foot down on the type of personal attack that sends valued contributors away and anyone found with multiple names/pseudonyms or resigns as a “New person” will be BANNED… I can see NO legit reason to pretend to be another (new) contributor etc. behave and you can be who you are simple…

Sound fair?

Thanks…Robbo

Previous threads can be found using the links below

Original First Post (26/04/12) here

Second updated Post (14/05/12)  here

Third Updated Post  (17/05/12) here

Fourth Updated Post (20th may 2012) here

Fifth Updated Post  (23/05/12) here

Sixth Updated Post (26/05/12) here

Seventh Updated Post (28/05/12) here

http://youtu.be/r4MouQVMNC4

Gerard Baden-Clay arrives at his new office at Toowong Towers. ((listening to an ipod?)

TOXICOLOGY tests into the murder of Allison Baden-Clay have been completed, but police are yet to announce what killed the mother-of-three.

It’s the last piece of the puzzle from the post-mortem examination and police say they are moving as fast as they can.

Police won’t reveal what information they’ve gleaned so far from the results and say they won’t be releasing the toxicology findings, which were returned on Monday.

Police Minister Jack Dempsey said last week the investigation was a priority and police would do everything they could to ensure no stone was left unturned.

Despite a backlog in forensic test analysis, data submitted from the post-mortem examination on Mrs Baden-Clay had been fast-tracked to try to secure an arrest as soon as possible.

Police this week again questioned residents in the western suburbs with cars similar to those driven by Gerard Baden-Clay about their movements on the night the real-estate identity’s wife disappeared.

Mrs Baden-Clay’s body was discovered on April 30 by a canoeist on the banks of Kholo Creek under the Mt Crosby Rd bridge at Anstead.

The 43-year-old was reported missing by her husband at 7.30am on April 20, after she failed to return from a walk.

Police appealed for information from anyone who saw either of the family cars, a silver Holden Captiva or a white Toyota Prado, on the night Mrs Baden-Clay was last seen.

They later made pleas for anyone who had driven through the Kenmore roundabout on April 19 from 11.30pm-4am the next day to contact them.

Anyone with information should call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

The Allison Baden-Clay Murder Investigation
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