A pain too great for young hearts to bear-Friends Unite updates


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Previous threads can be found using the links below, One being very first and so on…

One (26/04/12) here Two (14/05/12)  here Three (17/05/12) here Four (20/05/2012) here Five  (23/05/12) here Six (26/05/12) here Seven (28/05/12) here Eight (30/0512) here Nine (02/06/12) here Ten (08/06/12) here Eleven (11/06/12) here  Twelve 13/06/12 here
 
Maybe we take some time to reflect on the children.Who not that long ago, Had 2 pillars of strength in their eyes and lives. Now they have neither, but for the love of their grandparents, Allison’s mum and dad. Please scroll down to read the other story folks.A great idea from another friend of Allison’s, Deanne Hudson
ALSO GET ALONG TO THAT CRICKET GAME  THAT IS ON THIS SATURDAY…I WOULD OF FLOWN UP MYSELF IF NOT FOR MY LITTLE LAD IN HOSPITAL…WOULD LOVE TO MEET YOU GUYS UP THERE.

A pain too great for young hearts to bear

by: Madonna King

June 16, 2012

The girls have lost both the pillars of their entire lives

THIS weekend, three little girls are bunkering down with their grandparents.

Still struggling to accept the death of their mother, they are now grappling with the awful accusation that she died at the hands of their father.

That’s almost too difficult for anyone, let alone a young child, to comprehend and you can understand that they might fight it, or even refuse to believe it.

Either way, the charging of their father this week will irrevocably change their lives.

Their mother’s death was inconceivable. How does a young child who still dances like no one is watching process news like that?

But it is the arrest of their father, who has looked after them since their mother’s death, that has now stolen the remaining pillar of the family life they knew and understood.

Gerard Baden-Clay is innocent, until proven otherwise. He deserves the right to a fair trial and should be given one, and he shouldn’t have to wait years for that.

But whatever the eventual verdict is, his children will remember his arms around them as they said goodbye to their mother at a funeral that broke all our hearts.

They will remember being told that their father had been taken away by police because they believed he had hurt their Mum, a woman everyone describes as an angel on earth.

As time passes, God willing and with the loving and protective support of Allison Baden-Clay’s parents, they will learn to focus on the memories that count: their Mum reading to them, tucking them in at night, holding their hands, and swallowing them up with that smile that has beamed out of newspaper pages since we first heard of Allison.

This story has enveloped our state because Allison looked like she had it all. Perhaps we were even a little bit envious of her life. A lovely house in the suburbs, three gorgeous children, and a good-looking husband who was going places.

That postcard image was shattered the day her lifeless body was pulled from a creek, and it was buried when her husband didn’t react in the way many of us wanted.

Now Allison’s parents Geoff and Priscilla Dickie have the unenviable task of rebuilding a family shell around Allison’s three little girls. That’s what she would have wanted; and that’s what they will bust their guts to do.

That’s going to be hard on them too. We saw the pain etched in their faces during public appeals for help as they told us that their lives would never be the same, and that their precious granddaughters just wanted their mum. Their quiet dignity served as an example for all of us.

So many grandparents now have direct care for their grandchildren, but the challenges ahead for the Dickie clan will be so much harder.

I remember the dress I wore to my father’s funeral. It was blue, with a pretty pink belt. I hid it under shoes in my cupboard after that day until no one mentioned it again. And then, because it was a reminder of a day I never wanted to revisit, I cut it into tiny pieces and threw it away.

My father was stolen from me by cancer, not murder. And I was a few years older than Allison’s girls. But memories are memories, and they can be cruel and unforgiving.

Brisbane will remember Allison Baden-Clay as the mum who was so much better than most of us. A mum who could choose the job she wanted, and chose the one of bringing up her three young daughters.

A woman whose elegant dignity meant she would listen to the heartache in others’ lives, but would not share any that might have been part of her life.

A woman who had enormous pride in her three little girls, who now deserve to look each night into the sky and see their mum as the brightest star, guiding them in creating new memories, but holding dear those she created for them.

Allison Baden-Clay’s friends organise event to pay tribute and support daughters

by: Alison Sandy

June 18, 2012

FRIENDS of slain Brookfield mum Allison Baden-Clay will band together for a day of health and well-being aimed at celebrating womanhood, the 43-year-old’s life and to help raise funds for her three daughters.

Allison’s friend Deanne Hudson was inspired to do something after another friend Kerry Anne Walker (pictured), spoke at the funeral

Former Ipswich Girls’ Grammar schoolmate Deanne Hudson said she was inspired by something Mrs Baden-Clay’s friend Kerry-Anne Walker said at the funeral.

“When all this happened with Allison, I just lost sleep like everybody else and I started to think about how I could bring something positive out of this whole thing,” she said.

“Kerry-Anne said, ‘Don’t wait, do – do something with your life’ and I just thought … many of us in life put things off, we hold back from doing something.”

The event, Wear it Today for Allison, on July 16, encourages supporters to wear something they’ve been saving for a special day that may never come.

“And at the same time, think of Allison and her daughters,” Mrs Hudson said.

“We might have something special that we’ve been given that we’re saving for a special day to wear. Sometimes that day may not come as we since found out.

“It’s really just trying to bring people together in unity by wearing something they may not have worn for a long time, or may have never worn.

Mrs Walker lamented at the funeral that she and Allison were always making plans, but often did not follow through.

“We were going to do this and we were going to do that – life I have learnt is precious, and too short,” she said.

“We must do; not plan to do – take the time to reach out to that friend you have not seen in a while, make that call or write that letter you have been meaning to write. Start that hobby or take that walk that you have been putting off. Spend that extra time in the day to really listen to your children rather than letting the daily stresses and strains take over. Drink the good wine, even have an extra Danish pastry.

“Tomorrow doesn’t always come. I now know that, I know that my darling Allison’s last lesson to me is ‘don’t wait, do’.”

Meanwhile, a cricket day fund-raiser will also be held on Saturday at Brookfield Showgrounds with all proceeds to go towards the trust fund set up for the Baden-Clay children.

Donations can be made to the Late Allison Baden-Clay Children Appeal. Sanction No. CP5609, BSB 084 737, account 133196502

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The hurtful, spiteful, threatening, race fuelled, pure troublemaking type comments that have slipped by in the past will now be dealt with in an instant with Zero tolerance folks.

Be nice to each other and speak to others as you would expect to be spoken to yourselves. With decency, tact and acceptance of others right to a view opposite to your own. You do not have to agree, just be polite about saying so, it is not too much to ask!

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A new thread has been started here, to continue the discussion folks.

http://aussiecriminals.com.au/2012/06/20/prosecutor-danny-boyle-appointed-to-baden-clay-murder-case-bail-updates/

467 thoughts on “A pain too great for young hearts to bear-Friends Unite updates

  1. If he can not pay his lawyer he will have get a Legal Aid Lawyer and I do not know what it is like in Qld but in my state they would not fund a bail hearing application in the Supreme Court.

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  2. Just in response to Mike June 20, 2012 at 11:22 am, yes, better off without him, it took me awhile though! Hes trying to get his life back on track though. We weren’t together anymore when he went to prison, but were still good friends, and I went and visited him several times at Arthur Gorrie and Woodford and that was an experience in itsef!

    I don’t imagine Gerard would want to stay in the medical unit for long. You are not allowed any family or friend visits while in medical, only official visits (as in your lawyer, police and doctor and so on). I’m guessing he is probably afraid to go into the general prison population… The prisoners have access to newspapers and tvs and I’m guessing his (alleged) crime wouldn’t go down so well with the other inmates. Anyway, once he is denied bail and put into mainstream or protection he will be allowed one visit per week. From memory that can include two adults and up to four (or it might be six) children at one time. Anyone wanting to visit Gerard will have to go to reception at the prison and fill out a form with their relationship to Gerard, if they have a police record, show some id and a police check will then be run on the person wanting to visit. You then recieve a phone call within the next week saying you have been approved. When you go to visits, before you see the prisoner, you can put money in the jail account (for phone calls and buy up each week) and hand in one pouch of White Ox tobacco. Apparently a huge number of prisioners smoke, but even if you don’t smoke tobacco is good currency in prison!

    Also, before you go to your visit, you are given a little swab, which you have to run over the front of whatever you’re wearing, it is then put into a machine and analyized for whether you have been in contact with drugs or not. If the swab comes back positive you are not allowed a visit, and if you get three positives your visits are either suspended for a time or completely taken away (sorry, can’t remember which- i never got a positive reading!). I remember on one visit to Woodford that a heap of visitors were giving positive readings, and the guards thought the machine was broken, but they still didn’t let the people have their visits! You are also given a plastic card with a number on it, and that number correlates to a table where you have to sit. You then wait for the prisoners to come out. The visit lasts an hour and all prisoners are strip searched afterwards.

    I should add that protection and mainstream visits are held at different times, but if you are a naughty boy and get slotted you don’t get any visits (or tobacco, or your buy up..!).

    Sorry, i’ve probably gone a little off track here, but just thought some people might be interested in what life will most probably be like for Gerard and his loved ones in regards to prison from now on!

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    • Deborah , thanks for the insight into something few of us experience … I’ve never been afraid of any man however I do believe a stay in such a place would be quite unerving… i dunno how an insipid excuse for a human would handle it , but if you choose to end a life then in the eyes of the incarserated you’re fair game , the guards also have wives and kids so i would many a thing would go unoticed …. it is possible to accidently run into 50 punches in a day I hear .

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      • Sorry Mike but this crime would not rate in a prison it was a domestic crime,crimes against children and women in general yes but not against a wife.Public interest on the outside does not always match inside

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    • Deborah 8.59am you refer to a convicted prisoner remand prisoners have unlimited visitors and phone calls or at least they do in most states

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  3. Mike
    June 21, 2012 at 8:59 am

    “Deborah , thanks for the insight into something few of us experience … I’ve never been afraid of any man however I do believe a stay in such a place would be quite unerving (sic) … i dunno how an insipid excuse for a human would handle it , but if you choose to end a life then in the eyes of the incarserated (sic) you’re fair game…”

    So, Mike, you’re advocating violent behaviour towards prisoners because their “decision” to be incarcerated means that their basic human rights are – somehow – null and void? Is that the method you would apply to all those who were similarly imprisoned? Or are you just reserving your oh-so-macho, “…I’ve never been afraid of any man…” bully-boy tactics for those you believe, “deserve it”..?

    Regardless of the heinous nature of a person’s crime, or the triviality of it, ANY and EVERY person who is judged by the legal system that WE have created as a society – and which we continue to support – has already had the prescribed judgement meted out upon them; to call for that person to be continually degraded, beaten, and abused for the time that they are in jail is tantamount to torture. Is that what you are advocating, Mike? Torture?

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  4. Columbo
    June 20, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    “…my friend had to pay…Lawyers and a Barrister $60,000 in advance for a committal hearing at the Gold Coast and the Police dropped the charge on the morning of the hearing, but the Lawyers kept the money .Yes who really are the criminals (?)…”

    I see. So, if you ordered a building to be erected on such-and-such a date some months hence, and remunerated the builder in advance so that he may purchase materials, pay for permits and other sundries, and carry out all the myriad tasks required to prepare for the building (including paying for engineers, architects, and other subcontractors), that you would then expect him to reimburse your money because you decided to cancel the construction on the morning that it was due to commence…?

    Of COURSE you would.

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    • Justice Blah Blah Blah at 7.59pm
      You are obviously a parasite lawyer and a dead set tosser I am a Reg Builder and a Licensed Real Estate Agent,your example to justify your parasite colleagues to rip off my friend (money I had lent him) was at best childish,as a Builder BY LAW I would only be allowed to charge the cost of the Working Drawings,relevant approvals and some administration expenses.Prior to the commencement of construction and site works no expenses would have been incurred.
      I could sue in court for loss of profit ,but if you have any knowledge of that type of litigation you would know how difficult it would be and like most Civil matters only parasite lawyers win
      The $60,000 was for the 5 day committal hearing any preparation had already been paid that included $15,000 for a transcript of the main prosecution witness of his examination in a Federal Court hearing some months earlier because the lawyers said it was important,my friend has not sighted that document when in fact he owns it and it was never given to him.
      The 5 day committal never happened and would you suggest for those 5 days the Lawyer and the Barrister did no legal work that generated income???
      In my time I have paid over 2 million dollars on lawyers and spent more time in court rooms than some lawyers .In the State I live in most lawyers know of me as I have litigated many Civil actions without a parasite lawyer.

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  5. The prison I work at is low security (Non-violent or end of long sentence prisoners), so anything that goes on there must be worse at medium and maximum security. Things like bullying, rape, assaults, stand over tactics, verbal abuse etc. Should be fun for wimpy little Gerard. He is going to be crapping himself.

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  6. Columbo
    June 21, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    “…In the State I live in most lawyers know of me as I have litigated many Civil actions without a parasite lawyer…”

    Oh, and how the legal society in your state must be guffawing at the mere mention of your name..!

    You say that you are a registered builder – would you have someone take work away from you by building some shoddy construction because they have neither the qualifications, the experience, or the ability? Would you be happy for people to take away your livelihood by having all-and-sundry sell their own homes with no commission to you?

    Why else would you be a “registered” builder or a “licensed” real estate agent if you thought such qualifications weren’t both necessary and needed to carry out your work in a professional, legal, and proper manner?

    Do you really believe, then, that you are more qualified, better trained, more closely associated, and experienced than one who is at law..? Because, given your previous utterances, if you do then you are a hypocrite. Pure and simple.

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