Swimming Against The Tide Of Evidence in Photos!


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G’day Guys n Gals on Aussie Criminals,

Firstly can I publicly  again thank Robbo for giving me an opportunity to become involved and for having faith in me. I feel like a Claytons crime scene photographer, maybe I shouldn’t have been in banking for 20yrs and gone down the detective path. I do love investigating and putting pieces of the puzzle together. I’ve followed the case since the day Allison was reported missing.  I’m enjoying doing my own research / observations and allowing you guys a chance to see photos of the crime scene (final resting place) that you otherwise wouldn’t.

I’ve attended each day of the Gerard Baden Clay trial and seen all the photos (rather the lack of them). My main focus has been on the placement of Allison’s body in relation to the bridge, it’s structure and the surrounds.  Previously I published photos showing low tide.

Given the defense want to show tidal flows (by way of time lapse) and expert witness it was only right that I go back and photograph high tide.

As I’ve mentioned in previous postings I’m very much a visual person, I see things from a different perspective.

The one key visual that I wanted to replicate to you, the viewer, was the position of her body (almost side on/ parallel  to the concrete ledge) in relation to:
1. The concrete ledge (the mostly likely place her body was tossed from)
2. The concrete beams of the bridge (using the pillar as a guide)

This in my view helps to quash any perception the defense team want to prove that she committed suicide by jumping off the edge. Of course firstly she had to magically walk 14km or get a taxi didn’t she with no car.

So when you look at the photos where I show the ledge and concrete beams, use that as a guide when counting how far in under the road her body was. Unless her body could fly it’s impossible for it to have come from the top of the bridge.

I also stumbled across another possible area, not brought up by the prosecution, where the body could have been moved (transported) along, to reach its final resting spot. This is just a theory, we will never know the true route taken. But if I was wanting to move a body (with assistance) this area is perfect!

The police in evidence to the court said they looked at the scout camp (1.5km) and Macpherson Roslen P/L (3.1km) from the bridge. But the MOST obvious route to me is via the dry creek bed of Little Ugly Creek which runs parallel (city side)  in most places along Mt Crosby Rd. It’s as flat as a biscuit, concealed very well from main road, so no torch lights would have been spotted from the roadside if driving past. There are no houses around. There’s an awesome access point to the creek on Wirrabarra Rd and a well worn track where cars have been driven.  A car could have driven well into this scrub easily to park and would never be seen. Your landmark (to finding this track) is a road barrier with the word “Road Closed” spray painted.  So in the attached photos you’ll see the flatness. At some point I believe it’s plausible that the body is then bought up to Mt Crosby Rd (near a Telegraph pole) with only a walking distance of 150-200m to the bridge (remembering back then the grass was long so person/ persons could have ducked down with approaching headlights.    I didn’t have time to walk the entire creek, but as far as proximity goes and convenience to Kholo Creek it’s a route of choice I would have used (with assistance) to avoid detection.  I have gone back over the witness testimony and witness 26 lives at 670 Mt Crosby Rd. His dog started howling around 12.30am and 1am he also heard someone mumbling. This property is diagonally across from the path (parallel to the creek bed)   that I found below Mt Crosby.  Very interesting !

This is area on Wirrabara  Rd that I came across (200m approx) from intersection of Mt Crosby Rd and Wirrabara Rds

This is area on Wirrabara Rd that I came across (200m approx) from intersection of Mt Crosby Rd and Wirrabara Rds

A clear pathway beside the road closed barrier, leading down to beside Little Ugly Creek

A clear pathway beside the road closed barrier, leading down to beside Little Ugly Creek

Litttle Ugly Creek that runs beside the path. What stands out is the dryness and how flat the creek bed is, perfect for walking along

Litttle Ugly Creek that runs beside the path. What stands out is the dryness and how flat the creek bed is, perfect for walking along

This is the track were cars have clearly driven along over time, Little Ugly Creek is to the right of this photo. In the background is the direction of Mt Crosby Rd

This is the track were cars have clearly driven along over time, Little Ugly Creek is to the right of this photo. In the background is the direction of Mt Crosby Rd

This is to show the proximity of Mt Crosby Rd on this path which cars have clearly driven.  (To my back taking this photo is Little Ugly Creek.  Witness 26 property is in the direction of top left of the photo to give some perspective.

This is to show the proximity of Mt Crosby Rd on this path which cars have clearly driven. (To my back taking this photo is Little Ugly Creek. Witness 26 , Brian Mason property is in the general  direction  approximately of top left of the photo across the road to give some perspective. (When I took this photo I didn’t realise where his property was when I found this path below the road)  He testified that his dog started howling around 12;30am – 1am and she started to howl again after being quietened down. He stated that he heard mumbled voice, like someone was talking to someone.  (Day 3 testimony)

This is taken of Little Ugly Creek (with Mt Crosby Rd to my back) from the path were cars clearly have access.

This is taken of Little Ugly Creek (with Mt Crosby Rd to my back) from the path were cars clearly have access.

Little Ugly Creek photographed in the direction of Kholo Creek. Again so flat, easy to walk along, remaining well hidden.

Little Ugly Creek photographed in the direction of Kholo Creek. Again so flat, easy to walk along, remaining well hidden.

High Tide - The body was located to the right of this green plant

High Tide – The body was located to the right of this green plant

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Low Tide

Low Tide

High Tide

High Tide

Her head was in line (1 foot) to the left of the black sign on the right. With her legs almost parallel to the ledge (slightly pointed towards the water approx) Take  note of the beams under the bridge

Her head was in line (1 foot) to the left of the black sign on the right (towards the larger black sign). With her legs almost parallel to the ledge (slightly pointed towards the water approx)
Take note of the beams under the bridge

This the view you would see if you laid in the exact spot as the body. Highlighting that the body is between the 3rd,4th,5th beams of the bridge

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This the view you would see if you laid in the exact spot as the body. Highlighting that the body is between the 3rd,4th,5th beams of the bridge

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This the view if you were laying in the position of the body (the body was lying left to right from this leave) . Notice the positioning relative to the  (3rd-5th) beams of the bridge

This the view if you were laying in the position of the body (the body was lying left to right from this leave) . Notice the positioning relative to the (3rd-5th) beams of the bridge

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Showing the height between the ledge and riverbed

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Again to show the body's position (right of plant) in relation to the beams under the bridge.

Again to show the body’s position (right of plant) in relation to the beams under the bridge.

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 Leaning over the bridge to take shot of the plant under the bridge

Leaning over the bridge to take shot of the plant under the bridge

Other side of bridge (side of the pathway down to under the bridge)

Other side of bridge (side of the pathway down to under the bridge)

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The time lapse video I believe was taken from sitting a camera  on these pipes.

The time lapse video that the defense has taken of tidal flow I believe was taken from sitting a camera on these pipes.

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We'll never forget Allison!

We’ll never forget Allison!

 

Thanks for viewing and reading! To see more of my normal photographic work you can look here: http://www.gerryrocks.com

Rock On!

Gerry

 

 

 

 

18 thoughts on “Swimming Against The Tide Of Evidence in Photos!

  1. If they push the suicide angle (which I know we both suspect they’re going to do)… these photos blow that out of the water, Gerry. Hats off to you, buddy! What scares me is that the defence is going to be able to raise reasonable doubt about the leaves in her hair. Explaining the blood in the car along with the attached hair will be more difficult, but not impossible? I wonder how the jury are reacting to his testimony………

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  2. Gerry, these are the best, most explanatory photos of the location and surrounds that anyone could ask for. What a shame the jury couldn’t see them. Well done, Gerry, and thank you :-)

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    • Tell me about it Kenmoremum haha!

      Though I did identify,stop 5 frauds and armed hold up in my banking career.

      I just wanted to basically show, how I, as a photographer, would have presented evidence, in hosing down any talk of the suicide theory. To me it’s not rocket science, the facts are there for all to see, just that someone needed to show this in a court of law.

      The trial so far, has been underwhelming with photos, even videos. I sat in the Max Sica trial and there were heaps of photos. Even the customary video showing Max being walked through the crime scene. I have no idea why there’s been a distinct lack of photos presented.

      I mean the defence only in the last fortnight put together the time lapse video. I was out there the day they were packing it up (not that I knew that’s what they’d been doing)

      The time lapse video that was shown to the court, in my opinion, as a photographer, is poorly put together. I have taken plenty of time lapses in my time and this is D grade, it should be reshot from the other side of the creek, not far side.

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      • Yes I certainly have to agree with you there Gerry. The police were suspicious straight up so why so ordinary in evidence etc. I can understand the lack of DNA because of decomposition…gonna happen after 11 days in water. I was waiting for them to come in all guns blazing but going by whats been written on here I think more thought has been put into it by the contributors on here. Blind Freddy can see that she didn’t commit suicide!! Anyway with a bit of luck I may meet you on Monday all things going to plan. bella & I became friends on here 2yrs ago & have remained friends so I may come in with her.

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        • Bella has met me so she can point me out haha, she said she’d met you.

          I keep comparing this trial to USA. In the USA they leave no stone unturned when presenting visual evidence to court.

          Why didn’t the prosecution, present a diagram with a time line of events, using the testimonies of Flegg & Co (proximity). then incorporate Brian Mason’s testimony (proximity).

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  3. Thank you Gerry. You’re photographs are wonderful and they have a hideous story to tell. Each photo is a visual narrative of him disposing the body of the beautiful Allison. My thoughts, though perhaps incorrect: Allison’s jumper was around her neck. To me this may indicate that he had rolled her down the embankment before rigor mortis set in. Her clothing would not have been able to be moved after rigor. She was also in an advanced stage of decomposition, which could have also involved bloating? Her clothing would also not be able to be moved, even by a tide.. I am probably wrong. It just appears to me that he disposed of her body fast, and may of used her jumper as leverage to throw her down the embankment. I really wish the jury could view your wonderful photographs, as they have a story to tell.

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  4. Just gone back to Day 3 evidence

    The 18th witness to give evidence in the trial is Steve Courtney who lives at
    Anstead.

    In re-examination by Mr Boyle, Mr Courtney said Ugly Gully was near the bridge and flowed
    to Kholo Creek.
    He said the Ugly Gully ridge was around 100m from Kholo Creek.
    Mr Courtney pointed on a map to show Little Ugly Creek located off Wirrabarra Rd at
    Anstead, upstream and inland of the Kholo Creek Bridge.

    It’s a wonder the QPS didn’t do more investigations of Little Ugly Creek (on the Mt Crosby Rd side) at least tell the court it was looked at, especially since Brian Mason’s evidence fitted more into the probable time line of events, screams at Brookfield after 11pm…. his dog going nuts at at 12:30-1am.. Dogs don’t go off their nut for no reason, something had to have set his dog off, twice!

    Ugly Gully is confusing (name wise), but it runs from south west , Little Ugly creek runs from North West of Kholo Creek Bridge

    I don’t place any weight on witness 25 David Jenkinson’s 10:30pm evidence, his times are way out in regards to the timelines of screams heard at Brookfield after 11pm

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    • The only testimony in terms of screams /dog barking I believe are the dog howling the times it did. That is exactly what dogs do when they hear continual muffled sounds they do not recognise. We did a test with our 10 yr old neighbour girl who has the loudest most shrill scream I’ve ever heard in to a phone both a mobile and landline. It sounded like a squeak even though we positioned her right outside the front door. So Flagg’s scream story is 100% bogus in my opinion. And App’s scream story also seems totally improbable when you see her property/steep hills etc and her personal quest for media attention to sell/obtain private funds $$ for docu project App produced in which said screamer is in.

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  5. I think the good thing about taking photos of the areas is we can go back to the articles in 2012 to reference them.

    This article by CM in 2012 has a great google maps visual of Mt Crosby Rd at the bottom of the article.

    It’s worth having a play with it to show you the area (you can point the arrow up & down the road, look to the sides)
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/body-found-as-search-for-missing-woman-allison-baden-clay-enters-11th-day/story-e6freoof-1226342625074

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  6. I’m thinking he’s own testimony is going to be his biggest undoing IMO. Blabbering on about how much he loved Allison, how beautiful she was…….then to have, not one, not two, but three affairs…one continuing for three years! One does not have that many affairs if they truly love someone IMO. To have a fling and realise it was wrong, maybe……but three? No there’s no remorse about having the affairs Mr BC…….none whatsoever….otherwise it would have stopped at one. He got caught, that’s what threw the spanner in the works!

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