Australian criminals and their Crimes. Con artists, scum bags, murderers, corrupt cops, pollies, rapists and paedophiles will find themselves in this blog. It was expanded to also cover those that ought to be charged for their idiotic disgusting behaviour. Usually high-profile people who think they are above the law
3:31pm: Mr Fuller referred to an email Ms McHugh sent Mr Baden-Clay telling him she was tired of “pacifying” his marriage and being “second best”.”Wasn’t she capable of saying all that to your wife?” Mr Fuller asked.The court has previously heard Ms McHugh and Mrs Baden-Clay were due to come face-to-face for the first time since the affair had been made public at a real estate conference on April 20, 2012. “No … I had known her [Ms McHugh] for a period of over four years and I knew she had these explosive moments and then cooled down afterwards,” Mr Baden-Clay said. “I had no concern. Allison had probably anticipated that Toni would be at that conference anyway.”
3:20pm: Mr Fuller has asked Mr Baden-Clay about the list of questions in Mrs Baden-Clay’s journal. In the journal entry Mrs Baden-Clay wrote: “Laughed at undies. Told me I smelled.” Mr Fuller asked Mr Baden-Clay to explain the comments. “We had recommenced our sexual relationship in February  after the best part of nine years without any and it was very awkward initially. There were a couple of occasions, the beginning, where Allison was very self-conscious and very self-aware of what we were doing and I think she thinks that I laughed at the underwear that she was wearing and that’s not true,” Mr Baden-Clay said.“What about the next one?” Mr Fuller said.“I didn’t tell her she smelled. Neither of us had had a shower on one occasion and I said maybe we should have a shower because we smelled,” Mr Baden-Clay said.Mr Fuller suggested Mrs Baden-Clay asked Mr Baden-Clay those questions on Thursday April 19, 2012.“That’s completely untrue,” Mr Baden-Clay said.
3:08pm: Mr Fuller said Mr Baden-Clay failed to tell police on the morning he reported his wife missing that he had rekindled his relationship with his mistress Toni McHugh.”At that point in time my primary concern was for Allison’s safety and her whereabouts,” Mr Baden-Clay said.”At any moment I anticipated that she would be back. So no, I did not discuss the fact that I’d been in contact with Toni McHugh.”
3:05pm: Crown prosecutor Todd Fuller QC has continued his cross-examination of Gerard Baden-Clay. Mr Fuller has turned his questioning to the night Mr and Mrs Baden-Clay drove to the Mt Coot-tha Lookout to discuss his affair. The court has previously heard Mrs Baden-Clay asked her husband a series of questions about the time he spent with his mistress Toni McHugh on the evening of April 18, 2012. The questions were written in Mrs Baden-Clay’s journal. “You didn’t tell police about a conversation on the 18th,” Mr Fuller said. “They didn’t ask me about that,” Mr Baden-Clay replied.
3:00pm: The jury has been called to return to the courtroom.Court is in session.
2:46pm: Court has resumed.But legal argument is continuing between the prosecution and defence counsels.The jury is not yet present.
1:27pm Wrap: So far today … * Crown prosecutor Todd Fuller QC began his cross-examination of Mr Baden-Clay in dramatic fashion. Mr Fuller: “Mr Baden-Clay you deceived your wife for nearly four years didn’t you?”Mr Baden-Clay: “Yes.”Speaking loudly and forcefully, Mr Fuller stood at the bar with his hands folded in front of him. Mr Baden-Clay sat in the witness box responding to Mr Fuller’s questions in a hushed tones, prompting Justice John Byrne to request the former real estate agent speak louder. Mr Baden-Clay sat in the witness box with his hands folded in his lap, occasionally sipping from a cup of water.
* Mr Baden-Clay admitted to sleeping with another woman while at a conference in Sydney. At the time, he was still in a secret relationship with his long-time mistress Toni McHugh, while maintaining his marriage.
* The 43-year-old denied ever intending to leave his wife for Ms McHugh.
* He also denied being under significant financial pressure at the time of his wife’s disappearance, saying he was only under “some” financial pressure and “things were getting better”.
1:06pm: Court has adjourned for lunch and will resume at 2.30pm.
1:05pm: Mr Fuller has turned his attention to a blog written by Mr Baden-Clay about his wife’s 40th birthday when Mrs Baden-Clay visited a health spa for a week. Mr Fuller read from the blog: “The past week I have been trying to do my best impersonation of my dear wife, and struggling.” The court has previously heard Mr Baden-Clay claim his wife left most of the household duties to him due to her battle with depression. He has told the court Mrs Baden-Clay would go to bed, as soon as he arrived home from work, leaving the tasks of making dinner and putting the children to bed to him. Mr Baden-Clay’s defence barrister Michael Byrne QC raised a matter with Justice John Byrne. The jury was excused from the courtroom.
12:47pm: Mr Fuller has turned his questioning toMrBaden-Clay’s meeting with Ms McHugh at a coffee shop in early 2012.”You told her it was too hard to keep going the way you were going,” Mr Fuller said.”[She said] ‘If you need to be with your wife, if that’s the decision you’re making, then say it’. And your response was, ‘No, I will be leaving my wife, I am leaving my wife’.” “I can’t recollect that,” Mr Baden-Clay replied. “It’s the second last time you spoke to Ms McHugh in person,” Mr Fuller said. “I don’t have recollection of those specific things you said,” Mr Baden-Clay said.
12:41pm: Mr Fuller: “Who was more important to you Mr Baden-Clay?”Mr Baden-Clay: “Allison, absolutely Allison.”
12:40pm: Mr Fuller has turned his attention to the two occasions Mr Baden-Clay was intimate with Ms McHugh in the months after his wife had discovered the affair.”You told us you had sex with her, why did you do that?” Mr Fuller asked.”One occasion was not … was after we had met at a coffee shop and when we went back to our cars to leave I sat in her car and talked with her for a little bit longer,” Mr Baden-Clay replied. He took a deep breath and looked down at his hands. “How much sordid detail am I expected to give your Honour?” Mr Baden-Clay said. “I’m not asking for the sordid details, I’m asking why you had sex with her,” Mr Fuller said. “It wasn’t sex as in intercourse, but umm, I don’t know if I can really answer that question,” Mr Baden-Clay replied.
12:34pm: “You told Toni McHugh that you didn’t love your wife didn’t you?” Mr Fuller asked.“I may have done,” Mr Baden-Clay replied.“Again just to placate her?” Mr Fuller asked.“Yes, absolutely,” Mr Baden-Clay said.
12:34pm: Mr Fuller: “When did you first tell Allison that you didn’t love her?”Mr Baden-Clay: “I can’t remember. I did tell her that on an occasion, but I can’t remember.”Mr Fuller: “Was it more than once?” Mr Baden-Clay: “The conversations that we had were … please forgive me I’m just trying to recollect for you … we were … I’m trying to think if I can give you a reference to a time. I think it must have been in 2009 perhaps when we first when to see [psychiatrist] Tom George and we’d had a couple of conversations prior to meeting with him.” Justice John Byrne: “2009?” Mr Baden-Clay: “I think that’s correct your Honour.” Mr Fuller: “When Allison asked you to go with her to go and see him [Dr George]?” Mr Baden-Clay: “We agreed to go together … and it was after our conversations with Dr George … [I said] that I still loved her but I didn’t feel in love with her.”
12:28pm: Mr Fuller referred to an email from Ms McHugh to Mr Baden-Clay.”It’s clear that you have led her to believe that you were moving out and needed somewhere to live,” Mr Fuller said.”She was constantly trying to put additional pressure on me,” Mr Baden-Clay replied. “That pressure was right up until April 19, 2012. She wanted you to leave you wife. She wanted to be with you,” Mr Fuller said.
12:23pm: Mr Baden-Clay said he felt a responsibility to Ms McHugh.”She was under your spell wasn’t she?” Mr Fuller said. “Is that how it started?”“How do you mean?” Mr Baden-Clay asked. “Well you told us that you’d been couselling some of your staff. You told us she had problems in her own relationship. She was vulnerable wasn’t she?” Mr Fuller asked. “I didn’t think of her as vulnerable,” Mr Baden-Clay replied.
12:18pm: The court has heard Mr Baden-Clay was involved in an affair with a woman named Jackie Crane, while also involved in a relationship with his long-time mistress Toni McHugh and maintaining his marriage.Under heated questioning from Mr Fuller, Mr Baden-Clay admitted to sleeping with Ms Crane for a “couple of months”.On one occasion Mr Baden-Clay slept with Ms Crane while attending a real estate conference in Sydney. Mr Baden-Clay admitted he asked Ms McHugh to fly to Sydney to join him at the conference the following day.
12:14pm: Mr Fuller noted that Mr Baden-Clay had previously broken off his relationship with Ms McHugh.”Why didn’t you have the strength to do that in April 2012?” Mr Fuller asked, referring to the emails Mr Baden-Clay had sent Ms McHugh.“I told her on those occasions when we’d broken up over those three years … the reason we got back together was because I was concerned about what her reaction would be,” Mr Baden-Clay replied. “I had the courage on occasion to try and end the relationship and the weakness to go back into it or placate Toni.”
12:09pm: Mr Fuller has turned his attention again to MrBaden-Clay’s relationship with Ms McHugh in late 2011 and early 2012.”There were two occasions when we did have a sexual interaction and I deeply regret that. I deeply regret the whole thing. We were communicating with one another, I wouldn’t call it an affair,” Mr Baden-Clay said.“So why did you ring her up and ask her if she had told the police that you were back together?” Mr Fuller asked. “I had instructed her to tell the police everything,” Mr Baden-Clay replied.
12:05pm: Mr Fuller has turned his questioning to MrsBaden-Clay’s response to the discovery of her husband’s affair in light of her history with depression.”There was no lying around?” Mr Fuller asked.Mr Baden-Clay said his wife had retreated to the couch on occasion after learning of his affair. Mr Fuller indicated he was surprised to hear Mrs Baden-Clay had time to sit on the couch while working four days a week and raising three children. Mr Baden-Clay rebuffed the suggestion.
12:01pm: Mr Fuller said Mr Baden-Clay agreed to hand his wife his mobile phone each night after she discovered his affair. The court has previously heard Mr Baden-Clay deleted any calls he received from Ms McHugh. The court has also previously heard Mr Baden-Clay had sex with his long-time mistress Toni McHugh on two occasions after his wife discovered the affair. “So when were you going to be open and honest with her about those things?” Mr Fuller asked. “I didn’t intend to disclose those things potentially ever … because I didn’t want to put in jeopardy our relationship together,” Mr Baden-Clay replied. “There was a real risk she was going to walk out wasn’t there?” Mr Fuller said. “There was of course a risk,” Mr Baden-Clay replied.
11:58am: Mr Fuller: “The representation that people saw of your life as of 2011 and 2012 didn’t really have a ring of truth about it did it? … Your relationship with your wife was in trouble.”Mr Baden-Clay: “In 2011, at the time that Allison became aware of the affair with Toni, certainly our relationship was in trouble, but we were rebuilding from that moment.”
11:51am: Mr Fuller questioned Mr Baden-Clay about his continued false promises to Ms McHugh.”So you were willing to say whatever could be said to get yourself out of the situation?” Mr Fuller asked.“In that situation yes,” Mr Baden-Clay replied.
11:50am: Mr Fuller has noted Mr Baden-Clay rekindled his relationship with Ms McHugh in the months after his wife discovered the affair. “You couldn’t live without her could you?” Mr Fuller said. “That’s not correct,” Mr Baden-Clay replied. “That’s why you went back to her?” Mr Fuller said.
11:44am: Mr Fuller noted July 1 happened to be his wife’s birthday.”It also happens to be today,” Mr Baden-Clay replied.
11:43am: Mr Fuller has questioned Mr Baden-Clay about the emails he sent to Toni McHugh promising to be with her “unconditionally” by July 1.The email read: “This is agony for me too. I love you. I’m sorry you hung up on me. It sounded like you were getting very angry. I love you GG. Leave things to me now. I love you GM.”Mr Baden-Clay and Ms McHugh called each other GG for “Gorgeous Girl” and GM for “Gorgeous Man”. Mr Baden-Clay has insisted he sent the emails to placate Ms McHugh.
11:41am: Mr Fuller is standing at the bar, with his hands folded in front of him.His voice echoing throughout the courtroom.A softly spoken Mr Baden-Clay is seated in the witness box with his hands folded in his lap.
11:39am: Court has resumed.Crown prosecutor Todd Fuller QC has started his cross-examination of Mr Baden-Clay in dramatic fashion.Mr Fuller: “Mr Baden-Clay you deceived your wife for nearly four years didn’t you?”Mr Baden-Clay: “Yes.”Mr Fuller: “You led her to believe that your were faithful?”Mr Baden-Clay: “Yes I did.”Mr Fuller: “You led her to believe that she was the problem in the relationship?”Mr Baden-Clay: “No.”Mr Fuller: “You led her to believe that you wanted to change, that you wanted to make things different?”Mr Baden-Clay: “Yes.”Mr Fuller: “You led her to believe that you had chosen her over Toni McHugh?”Mr Baden-Clay: “Yes.”
11:24am: Mr Byrne has finished questioning Mr Baden-Clay.Mr Baden-Clay will be cross-examined by prosecutor Todd Fuller QC after a short morning tea break.
p class=”first”>Accused murderer Gerard Baden-Clay will resume giving evidence today at the Supreme Court in Brisbane, defending claims he murdered his wife.
Under oath last week, the 43-year-old denied killing his wife, Allison, and disposing of her remains in April 2012. The former real estate agent wept in court yesterday as he revealed details of his multiple affairs, saying he never intended to leave his wife and turned to other women when the intimacy in their marriage dried up. Baden-Clay said he began his affairs because he wanted sex but he ultimately desired a long-term future with his wife and their children. The 43-year-old also used a highlighter to demonstrate how twice he cut himself shaving the morning Allison vanished on April 20, 2012. Forensic experts have testified the wounds on his face look like fingernail scratches and the court has also been told Allison’s blood was found in one of the couple’s cars. Baden-Clay has told the court that when he went to sleep on April 19, 2012 Allison was watching TV and when he woke up she was gone. Her body was found on a creek bank at Anstead on April 30, 2012, 10 days after her husband reported her missing. Thanks LJC I have a computer guy coming out today.My computer just shuts down after being on after about 45 minutes
This is LJC2013, standing in for Robbo (whose computer has gone to be with God)… We are hoping he gets back ASAP because I have no skills as an administrator!! I have to go to a doctor’s appointment tomorrow morning (to look after my own mental health… given the torture all AC Teamsters are being put through in that courtroom – haha) but I will hopefully be at the courts by 11:00 and I’ll just beg for a seat. And thus we begin yet another day of drivel, drama and demented dialogue. Get Well Soon, Robbo’s Computer!! 🙂 PS. News just in… They’re opening 3,249 courtrooms to deal with all the public interest. Haha.