GBC Jury retired for Deliberations


update

12:43pm: Justice Byrne acknowledged the jury had requested for a copy of his summation of the closing addresses from the prosecution and defence counsels.

He declined the request and asked the jury to give a written note to the Bailiff requesting for parts, or all, of his summation to be read again in open court.

The jury has resumed its deliberations.


This is what these last days are about. Who is telling the truth, the facts, the most likely scenarios? The jury will NEED to apply this to everything they have heard and seen

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All previous threads and history including trial can be found clicking on link below https://aussiecriminals.com.au/category/gerard-baden-clay/

List of Trial Witnesses as they appear here

 

Sometime Thursday the jury might be directed to go and deliberate on their verdict in this trial! It may take an hour, it may take 8 days (Rolf Harris Trial) How will they know they have got it right? They will not, in my opinion this is no LAB, no science. It comes down to people and their gut feelings. The common sense they have accumulated over their life times

Otherwise we would have computers collating the data and telling us how it is…(Thank god that is not the case)

It comes down to people like me or you who will decide the fate of Gerard, the one and only suspect and person on trial accused of killing his wife Allison. Mother of their 3 girls.  (for a pittance I might remind you)

So what now? All the evidence, all the facts, the fiction, the lies, the truth, the witnesses with an agenda. Either via family ties, monetary gain or loss, fame, fortune or indeed notoriety. It all ends with the jury. The time has come for our legal system to accept the judgement of a select group who represent our community.

SPACE RESERVED FOR WHEN DELIBERATIONS BEGIN

How about this Unlawful Killing option (Manslaughter?)

What the law says

Sections 303 of the Criminal Code Queensland states:

A person who unlawfully kills another under such circumstances as not to constitute murder is guilty of manslaughter

 

What the police must prove

In order for the Police to prove their case at Court, they must prove each of the following matters beyond a reasonable doubt.

  1. The accused killed the deceased and that he did so unlawfully. Unlawful simply means not authorised, justified or excused by law. It is not an element of the offence that the accused intended to kill the deceased or to do the deceased any particular harm.
  2. It will be necessary for the Police in every offence to prove that the accused was the person who committed the offence. Click here to learn more about identification evidence

Maximum penalty

The Maximum penalty for the offence of Unlawful Killing/Manslaughter is life imprisonment.

Which court will hear the matter

This matter is indictable which means it is dealt with in the Supreme Court.

Possible defences

Possible defences to this offence include but are not limited to

  1. Self Defence
  2. Defence of another person
  3. Insanity
  4. Identification i.e. not the accused
  5. The killing was not unlawful
  6. An ordinary person in the position of the accused would not have foreseen the death of the deceased as a possible outcome of his act.
  7. The person is not dead i.e. death cannot be proved

What about Murder? here is what the law says

What the law says

Sections 302 of the Criminal Code Queensland states:

  1. A person who unlawfully kills another under any of the following circumstances, thatistosay-
    • (a) if the offender intends to cause the death of the person killed or that of some other person or if the offender intends to do to the person killed or to some other person some grievous bodily harm;
    • (b) if the death is caused by means of an act done in the prosecution of an unlawful purpose, which act is of such a nature as to be likely to endanger human life;
    • (c) if the offender intends to do grievous bodily harm to some person for the purpose of facilitating the commission of a crime which is such that the offender may be arrested without warrant, or for the purpose of facilitating the flight of an offender who has committed or attempted to commit any such crime;
    • (d) if death is caused by wilfully stopping the breath of any person for either of such purposes;

is guilty of murder.

What the police must prove

In order for the Police to prove their case at Court, they must prove each of the following matters beyond a reasonable doubt.

  1. The person is dead;
  2. The accused killed him; that is he caused his death; and
  3. The accused did so intending to cause his death, or at least to cause him grievous bodily harm

It will be necessary for the Police in every offence to prove that the accused was the person who committed the offence. Click here to learn more about identification evidence.

Maximum penalty

The Maximum penalty for the offence of Murder is life imprisonment.

Which court will hear the matter

This matter is indictable which means it is dealt with in the Supreme Court.

Possible defences

Possible defences to this offence include but are not limited to

  1. The person is not dead.
  2. The death was not caused by the actions of the accused
  3. Self defence or in defence of another
  4. Accident
  5. Identification i.e. not the accused.
  6. Insanity
  7. Provocation (This is a partial defence only, which may reduce the charge to manslaughter.)

 

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Author: Robbo

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13 thoughts on “GBC Jury retired for Deliberations”

    1. Pinkshoes, I have wondered the same thing, NBC was called up to the stand to give some evidence and GBC’S sister was and everyone else, but EBC wasn’t, maybe she refused to because she didn’t have much to say and what she said wasn’t that important to the court.

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      1. TCR/Pinkshoes- I sometimes wonder if EBC has to ask permission from NBC before she speaks. She seems to be in a world of her own. One never hears anything about her. GBC certainly only mentions her in the context of ‘my parents’.
        Now back to GBC’s narcissistic behaviour. One symptom is early un-attachment from the mother (Mayo Clinic). Perhaps Bwana insisted on being in charge of strict/no physical contact parenting just like GBC inflicted on his girls. There is a equally inherent parenting style that was instilled in the three BC children that has certainly carried over greatly in to their adult lives.

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        1. I remember seeing him hug his father in video footage on a couple of occasions, while EBC just sort of stood by and looked on. Seemed odd.

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  1. GBC will probably get what he deserves, getting the Guilty Verdict and rotting in jail for the next 20 or so years.

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    1. its ironic… this was all brought about by GBC’s need for sex (with his mistresses and whatnot)…

      well, where he’s going, he is going to be getting a LOT of sex. its probably not the kind he was hoping for… but nevertheless… beggars cant be choosers.

      hes got a “pretty mouth”. he’ll do OK in there.

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  2. Just to clarify: I can’t put my hand on the transcript I saw, however I clearly recall reading where the female DNA expert talked of finding ‘partial matches’ and when she mentioned ‘two’, I assumed she was speaking in reference to others besides Allison, not Allison’s own and another.
    Hence the reason I was retracting I guess what I had posted previously after hearing snippets from persecution:-) today. I was apologizing for my misinterpretation and blonde moment.
    I got a bit excited maybe when I heard/saw/read thinking it was leading towards another being involved.
    It would be good if anyone had the actual transcript for clarification.
    Sorry again. Retirement time me thinks for Little Fish.
    Poor Mr and Mrs Dickie trying to stay healthy through this process. Not much sleep I suspect at this time. Poor darlins.

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  3. It’s getting close now, the “pointy end” is in clear sight.
    I’m going to attend court today I’ve decided. I want to see TF in action. His expressions, hear the tone in his voice and smell GBCs fear…
    Justice is close dear Allison.

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  4. The remaining seven men and five women of the jury have retired to consider their verdict.There we have it folks. About 11.10am on the 18th day. How long now, and for who is it the most excruciating time I wonder?

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  5. Update from Jury
    12:43pm: Justice Byrne acknowledged the jury had requested for a copy of his summation of the closing addresses from the prosecution and defence counsels.

    He declined the request and asked the jury to give a written note to the Bailiff requesting for parts, or all, of his summation to be read again in open court.

    The jury has resumed its deliberations.

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