Wyndham Vale crash: Akon Guode, charged with 3 counts of murder and 1 count of attempted murder


UPDATE 16 Jan 2017

 

Blood-splattered walls, family photos and the tiny stain that blew the case wide open: Graphic photos from inside the Lin family home – after Robert Xie was found guilty of five murders 

  • Robert Xie has been found guilty of murdering five of his wife’s relatives
  • His wife, Kathy Lin, has stood by him and proclaimed his innocence
  • But she sobbed as a NSW Supreme Court jury handed down its verdict
  • Xie cut electricity to the Epping home and systematically killed the five
  • Grisly crime scene photos have emerged from the Lin family home

SOME PEOPLE MAY FIND THE FOLLOWING IMAGES DISTURBING

Grisly crime scene photos have emerged from the Lin family home where Robert Xie murdered five of his wife’s relatives.

Fuelled by resentment and humiliation at his ‘inferior’ status in the Lin family, Robert Xie crept into a Sydney house and bludgeoned five of his wife’s relatives to death.

In horrific detail, a court heard how Xie systematically went about murdering his brother-in-law and wife, their two children and her sister under the cover of night.

The first police images from the Lin home in Epping have emerged with walls and door handles splattered with blood, footprints in the carpet and drops of blood throughout the house.

 A mobile phone charger splattered in blood at the Lin family homeA mobile phone charger splattered in blood at the Lin family home

There was blood on the bedroom door handles and the smeared up the door

The crucial blood stain 91: This blood stain was found in Xie's garage ten months after the murders. It contained four of the five victim's DNAThe crucial blood stain 91: This blood stain was found in Xie’s garage ten months after the murders. It contained four of the five victim’s DNA

The carpet from the main bedroom was treated with chemicals, revealing a clear sneaker footprint which prosecutors claimed were consistent with the shoes Xie woreThe carpet from the main bedroom was treated with chemicals, revealing a clear sneaker footprint which prosecutors claimed were consistent with the shoes Xie wore

Horrific splatters of blood on the wall in the children's bedroom. Investigators believe the two children were awake and moving when they were beaten to deathHorrific splatters of blood on the wall in the children’s bedroom. Investigators believe the two children were awake and moving when they were beaten to death

Pictured is a small bed shaped as a racing car in Min and Lily's room. Their son Terry, 9, would sleep there when he had trouble in his own roomPictured is a small bed shaped as a racing car in Min and Lily’s room. Their son Terry, 9, would sleep there when he had trouble in his own room

This silver coloured Bird brand mobile phone was covered in blood and found under the racing car bedThis silver coloured Bird brand mobile phone was covered in blood and found under the racing car bed

Photos have emerged from the grisly crime scene at the Lin family home in EppingPhotos have emerged from the grisly crime scene at the Lin family home in Epping

The graphic images show the violent murders that took place within the bedrooms as the family were bludgeoned to death.

Images show the dark chemicals used to bring out the footprints of sneakers that were consistent with the shoes Xie wore, according to prosecutors.

One blood stain, labelled ‘Stain 91’, became an integral part of the Crown’s case. It contained four of the five victim’s DNA and was found in Xie’s garage ten months later.

Xie had a perverted sexual fascination with a teenager connected to the family, and would rub himself against her while erect, the murder trial also heard, reported the Daily Telegraph.

Pictured is a blood-stained doorknob at the entrance to Irene Lin's room Pictured is a blood-stained doorknob at the entrance to Irene Lin’s room

The Lin family's sandals were scattered at the base of a staircase leading to the second floorThe Lin family’s sandals were scattered at the base of a staircase leading to the second floor

Like every other house: A view inside the living room and study of the Lin family home on the day of the murdersLike every other house: A view inside the living room and study of the Lin family home on the day of the murders

A photo showing the doorway into bedroom one with an arrow pointing two the light switchA photo showing the doorway into bedroom one with an arrow pointing two the light switch

Pictures is a view of Robert Xie's garage. The photo was taken during a police search

A look inside Robert Xie’s garage: The photos were taken during a police search

More than seven years and four trials later, the 53-year-old is facing life behind bars after a NSW Supreme Court jury on Thursday found him guilty of the five murders.

It took the jury eight days of deliberations after a six month trial, marking Xie one of Australia’s worst mass murders in living history.

Just days after the gruesome murders in 2009, Xie and his wife, Kathy Lin, made an emotional public plea for information to help solve the terrible crimes.

They asked that media not show their faces because of concerns for their own safety.

Robert Xie has been found guilty of brutally murdering five of his wife's relatives in 2009. The court heard he harboured a deep hatred over his 'inferior' status in the extended familyRobert Xie has been found guilty of brutally murdering five of his wife’s relatives in 2009. The court heard he harboured a deep hatred over his ‘inferior’ status in the extended family

VICTIMS: Min Lin, 45, and Lily Lin, 43 were killed after being bludgeoned with a 'hammer-like object' by Robert XieVICTIMS: Min Lin, 45, and Lily Lin, 43 were killed after being bludgeoned with a ‘hammer-like object’ by Robert Xie

 A furious struggle took place in the bedroom of his young nephews Terry (left) and Henry (right) – but both were killed by their sinister uncle

Irene was the fifth member of the family to suffer a horrendous fate at Xie's hands, the jury foundIrene was the fifth member of the family to suffer a horrendous fate at Xie’s hands, the jury found

Xie said he couldn’t imagine any reason why anyone would want to harm the family, describing his dead brother-in-law as a ‘very nice, hard-working, friendly person’.

Xie had pleaded not guilty to murdering the five in their North Epping home.

The former ear, nose and throat specialist, who was arrested in May 2011, faced two aborted trials and a third lasting nine months which resulted in a hung jury.

As the majority verdict was handed down, Xie told the court he did not murder the Lin family.

‘I am innocent,’ he told the jury as he left the court.

His wife Kathy began to cry.

Outside of court, Min Lin’s parents wept in relief after the guilty verdict. ‘We are happy,’ they said to reporters, while holding framed photos of their lost loved ones.

LIN FAMILY HOME: This is the home where Robert Xie killed five members of his wife's familyLIN FAMILY HOME: This is the home where Robert Xie killed five members of his wife’s family

LOCKED AWAY: The latest trial of Lian Bin 'Robert' Xie lasted some five months - the verdict ally coming some seven years after the deaths shocked AustraliaLOCKED AWAY: The latest trial of Lian Bin ‘Robert’ Xie lasted some six months – the verdict finally coming some seven years after the deaths shocked Australia

Outside of court, Min Lin's parents wept in relief after the guilty verdictOutside of court, Min Lin’s parents wept in relief after the guilty verdict

'We're very happy': The pair managed to stutter amidst heavy sobbing as reporters surrounded them outside of NSW Supreme Court‘We’re very happy’: The pair managed to stutter amidst heavy sobbing as reporters surrounded them outside of NSW Supreme Court

 Xie was found to have left their bed in the early hours of July 18, 2009, hours after attending a ‘normal’ Friday night dinner with his extended family.

His wife confirmed his alibi, that he didn’t leave their bed that night, but the Crown suggested Xie sedated her before creeping into the Lin residence around the corner.

TIMELINE OF MURDERS

July 18, 2009: Five members of the Lin family are found dead in their North Epping home

May 5, 2011:  Robert Xie is arrested and charged with five counts of murder

December 19, 2012: Xie is committed to stand trial

July 22, 2013: Trial delayed to March

August, 2014: Second trial begins, but is aborted due to judge’s health issues

February, 2015: Third trial begins, but jury is unable to reach a verdict after ten months

December 8, 2015: Xie is granted bail

June, 2016: Retrial is commenced in Sydney

 January 12, 2017: Xie is found guilty of five murders

Ms Lin lied at times to ‘assist’ her husband, not because she knew he was guilty but because she was convinced he was framed by police, prosecutor Tanya Smith said.

At the Lin house, Xie disconnected the electricity before making his way upstairs in the dark.

He then used a hammer-like object to inflict horrific head injuries on his newsagent brother-in-law, Min Lin, 45, and his wife, Lily, 43, as they lay in their bed.

He did the same to Lily’s sister, Irene, 39, in the next room.

Blood splatters revealed a furious struggle took place in the third bedroom occupied by Xie’s nephews.

But Henry, 12, and Terry, 9, still suffered the same shocking fate in the North Epping home.

‘This was a well-planned crime of a personal nature, by a single person who has carefully improvised a murder weapon,’ Ms Smith said.

Kathy Lin, the wife of Robert, has supported her husband for years and proclaimed his innocence. On Thursday, he was found guilty of killing her familyKathy Lin, the wife of Robert, has supported her husband for years and proclaimed his innocence. On Thursday, he was found guilty of killing her family

Forensic specialists are pictured at the North Epping home where all five of the bodies were found in 2009. The court heard that Xie cut the electricity before entering the houseForensic specialists are pictured at the North Epping home where all five of the bodies were found in 2009. The court heard that Xie cut the electricity before entering the house

Xie believed he was entitled to respect and admiration within the extended family, but felt he was denied this because of the uncritical and misplaced high regard given to Min Lin.

‘The Crown case is that this perception evoked intense emotions on his part, including anger and resentment.’

The Crown also contended that Xie had a sexual motive, details of which cannot be published for legal reasons.

Four of the victims died from the combined effects of blunt force trauma and asphyxia, involving injuries indicative of neck compression.

The Crown cited Xie’s medical skills, while Witness A, who was in jail with Xie, said Xie showed him a particular location on the neck, which was incapacitating.

Xie had a perverted sexual fascination with a teenager connected to the family, and would rub himself against her while erect, the murder trial also heardXie had a perverted sexual fascination with a teenager connected to the family, and would rub himself against her while erect, the murder trial also heard

Horrifically murdered: Xie's Chinese-born brother-in-law Norman Lin and Lin's wife Lily (both pictured) were killedHorrifically murdered: Xie’s Chinese-born brother-in-law Norman Lin and Lin’s wife Lily (both pictured) were killed

Witness A also testified to seeing Xie, who always appeared calm in the dock, screaming at an elderly inmate who was using a walking frame.

‘The whole (exercise) yard stopped,’ he said.

‘It was like zero to 100.

Defence barrister Robert Webb had argued the ‘highly organised’ and brutal execution involved multiple assailants, also contending that Xie got on well with his relatives.

He particularly loved his nephew Henry whom he treated like a son.

But the Crown said the boys and Irene were ‘collateral damage’ or secondary victims who may have woken up when the adults were being murdered.

‘The Crown case is that he came to kill Min and Lily and was prepared to kill others should the need arise.’

What the jury heard in the trial

WHAT THE CROWN SAID:

* One person murdered the Lin family at their North Epping home in Sydney, in the early hours of July 18, 2009

* Xie sedated his wife before leaving their bed and creeping into the Lin residence, 300 metres away

* Xie knew the location of the Lin’s outside power box to enable the electricity to be turned off

* Xie had access to a key and knew the layout of the Lin house

* Bloodied shoe prints in the Lin home were consistent with Asics sneakers Xie wore

* On May 6, 2010, Xie cuts up shoe boxes, showing ‘consciousness of guilt’

* Small ‘bloodstain’ – dubbed Stain 91 – on Xie’s garage floor ‘most likely’ contains DNA of four Lin family victims

* Partly motivated by his perceived ‘inferior’ status in the Lin family – supported by evidence of Witness A, an inmate who recorded Xie speaking disparagingly of Min Lin

WHAT THE DEFENCE SAID:

* It wasn’t one person in the dark

* Improbable all five victims could be controlled by one person; crime scene suggests more than one assailant

* Xie’s wife Kathy Lin confirms his alibi of being asleep with her at the time of the murders

* Disputes DNA evidence and the Crown’s assertion stain on Xie’s garage floor is blood

* No evidence showing Xie motivated to harm the Lin family

* Xie got on well with Lin family and was particularly close to nephew Henry

* He cut up the shoe boxes as he feared police would falsely implicate him in the murders

* Conversations with Witness A were ‘nothing more than jail talk’

* Denies Crown’s suggestion of a sexual motive, details of which cannot be published.


abc.net.au

Mother pleads guilty to murdering three children in lake crash

submerged-four-wheel-drive-in-a-lake-at-wyndham-vale-in-2015

Submerged four wheel drive in a lake at Wyndham Vale in 2015

Mon 16 Jan 2017, 12:35pm

A mother has pleaded guilty to murdering three of her seven children, and trying to kill a fourth, by driving into a lake at Wyndham Vale in Melbourne’s south-west.

Akon Guode, 37, showed little emotion as she pleaded guilty to murdering her one-year-old son Bol and four-year-old twins, Hanger and Madit, and attempting to murder her five-year-old daughter Alual in 2015.

The mother’s plea in the Victorian Supreme Court came at a mention hearing before she was due to stand trial.

As the charges were read to her, through the help of an interpreter, the only words she said were “guilty” to each charge.

Passersby and emergency services frantically tried to help Guode and her children after her car plunged deep into Lake Gladman at Wyndham Vale.

Alual survived after being pulled from the water and sent to hospital.

A police statement publicly released in July last year alleged Guode spoke about killing herself and her children on the day of the tragedy.

A court hearing was previously told she drove by a lake at Wyndham Vale five times before “deliberately and consciously” driving into the water.

Guode’s eldest daughter had testified that her mother had dizzy spells six months before she drove into the lake.

Guode came to Australia from South Sudan to escape war after her first husband died.

She had been having a long affair with the father of the children involved in the incident, Joseph Manyang.

Mr Manyang separated from his wife after Hanger and Madit were born and the affair became public, but lived separately from Guode and her children.

The court was earlier told Guode became too frightened to interact with the Sudanese community.

Mr Manyang described Guode as a caring and loving mother.

During a court hearing Guode collapsed and wailed as a harrowing triple-0 call from the incident was played in court.

Following the deaths of the children there was an outpouring of grief from the local Sudanese community.

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Children die, others critical in car lake plunge at Wyndham Vale

A SUDANESE MOTHER of seven was driving the car that ploughed into a Melbourne lake killing a baby, young twins and critically injuring a third child.

UPDATE 08/12/15

Police allege she drove by the lake five agonising times before driving into it, with witnesses describing seeing a woman slumped over the wheel as her children ran wild in the back seat.

heraldsun.com.au

Mum watched kids drown: police claim

Akon Guode, centre, is comforted by family and friends at a memorial for her children. Picture: Ian Currie

A MOTHER accused of killing her three children by driving them into a lake stood by and watched them die, court documents reveal.

Court documents released tonight reveal a witness saw Akon Guode accelerate further into a Wyndham vale lake after landing in shallow water.

Ms Guode, 36, is charged with three counts of murder and one count of attempted murder.

For at least two hours earlier, she did laps of the lake’s entry point, police allege.

She cried and begged Magistrate Carolene Gwynn to set her free today despite her lawyers failing to make any application for bail.

Police allege she drove by the lake five agonising times before driving into it, with witnesses describing seeing a woman slumped over the wheel as her children ran wild in the back seat.

PREVIOUSLY: THREE MURDER CHARGES OVER LAKE TRAGEDY

Cameras allegedly catch her pull over before driving out of view into the lake.

One witness told police he called 000 but was not overly concerned because the car was not far enough into the lake.

“The accused upon entry into the water has then accelerated the vehicle, causing the wheels to spin and provide sufficient motion to advance into the lake to the middle,” the documents state.

A group watches as police divers prepare to remove Akon Guode’s car after it plunged into a lake in Wyndham Vale. Picture: Mark Stewart
Joseph Tito Manyang, the father of the three children killed in a Wyndam Vale lake. Picture: Tracey Nearmy/AAP

The witness claims she drove another 20 metres into the lake from where he first saw her land.

As one of her children tried to swim to shore, Ms Guode was “screaming but standing, doing nothing not panicked”, the witness claimed.

Police claim all of the children somehow managed to escape out of the open driver’s side window, where Ms Guode stood and watched them drown.

Firefighters claimed they watched Ms Guode stand silently before dunking herself in the water.

One girl, six-year-old Aluel, was rescued and survived.

Once safe, Ms Guode allegedly told desperate emergency workers only three of her kids were in the car.

In the five minutes it took her to mention her fourth, the child was dead.

Court documents allege Ms Gouda drove around the lake in Wyndhamvale for two-and-a-half hours before the fatal incident.

Akon Guode with crash survivor Aluel as a baby.

Police allege the mother of seven was struggling at the time with her children and gossip within the Sudanese community about her affair with the father of four of her children.

Court documents allege Ms Guode became the mistress of her dead husband’s cousin Joseph Manyang in 2008, bearing his child behind his then wife’s back.

When the relationship was discovered, it was shunned by her local community until the day of the tragedy in April this year.

“This caused considerable ongoing unhappiness for the accused,” the documents allege.

Ms Guode went on to have three more children with Mr Manyang, who separated with his wife in early 2011.

On the day the children died, rumours circulating within the Sudanese community was that Mr Manyang would leave Ms Guode to return to his wife.

Up until then, the alleged killer had been hoping to move to Morwell to be closer to family and Mr Manyang, who lived in the area.

Police allege she was also under considerable financial pressure.

At the court hearing Ms Guode cried and begged Magistrate Carolene Gwynn to set her free despite her lawyers failing to make any application for bail.

Speaking through an interpreter, Ms Guode, told the court she wanted to go home.

“I’m feeling emotional,” she said before bursting into tears.

“I (will) go back home. I (will) not escape…everything you tell me to do, I’ll do. I won’t go anywhere.”

She will return to court in June.

wayne.flower@news.com.au


The car was up to 30m from the lake’s shore. Picture: Jake Nowakowski

The car was up to 30m from the lake’s shore. Picture: Jake Nowakowski

  • Three children have died and two others are critically hurt
  • A woman was also in the car and is in under police guard in hospital
  • The crash happened at a lake off Manor Boulevard, Wyndham Vale at 3.40pm
  • All four children are believed to be aged under six
  • A neighbour smashed the rear windscreen to rescue the children

POLICE have confirmed a third child has died after their car plunged into a lake at Wyndham Vale this afternoon.

The car was found in the lake off Manor Lakes Boulevard, near Pedder Street, at 3.40pm.

The female driver is under police guard in Royal Melbourne Hospital.

Police believe all four children were under six years of age.

The car is about 20 to 30 metres from the shore.

An emotional Superintendent Stuart Bateson said “we don’t know why, we don’t know how” the car entered lake, about 38km west of Melbourne’s CBD.

He said it was “too early” to tell whether the female driver was the mother of all four children.

“All we know at this stage is a female driver has been taken to hospital and we have two deceased children,” he said.

ANYONE WHO WITNESSED THE CRASH IS URGED TO CONTACT CRIME STOPPERS ON 1800 333 000

“We have another two children that have been flown to hospital in a serious condition.

“What we do know is that when the car left (the road) passers by and police members got some of the children out and did CPR.

“Unfortunately two of the children passed away.”

Lake tragedy
 Detectives from the Major Collision Investigation Unit are at the scene.

They will try to piece together the exact cause of the crash, determining how fast the car was travelling, whether the car braked or swerved and other factors like road conditions.

The Search and Rescue squad is also attending the scene and will retrieve the vehicle from the water.

Tests can then be conducted on the car to make sure there are no mechanical faults or defects.

Superintendent Bateson said police were unsure whether the car was driving erratically before entering the lake.

Authorities at the scene. Picture: Jake Nowakowski

Authorities at the scene. Picture: Jake Nowakowski

“It is pretty early in our investigation,” he said.

“What we do know is that we have a very tragic set of circumstances here and it is going to be a very harrowing investigation.”

He said “everyone”, including police, had been affected by the tragic scene.

“When you come to a scene like this and my members in particular, who have been performing CPR for an extended period of time, are really feeling it,” he said.

“It is tough for everyone involved.”

The location of this afternoon’s tragic incident. Image: Google Maps

The location of this afternoon’s tragic incident. Image: Google Maps

The Superintendent said nearby SES and CFA members helped at the scene, as community members jumped into the lake in an attempt to rescue the children.

Resident Michelle told 3AW her neighbour Travis had to smash the car’s back windscreen to rescue the children.

“It’s just a horrible scene.” she said.

“Travis jumped into the water, smashed the back screen of the car and got one little boy out,” she said.

“Then they started working on him.”

Crying, she added: “It’s so very hard to talk about when there are children involved.”

Michelle said the car was travelling along Manor Lakes Boulevard and “but just went straight over into the lake.”

She said: “I’m not sure if it was speeding or what happened.”

Resident Kate Slee, who lives opposite where the crash occurred, said the park was normally a “pretty place” popular among families.

“I am devastated because I’ve got two kids of my own,’’ she said.

Stacie Buckley, also nearby, said: “It’s terrible. It’s a complete shock knowing it’s so close to home. I’ve got kids myself so anything involving kids is just awful.”

“You would never think something like this would happen in that particular spot. The ponds are retty far back from the road. It’s just completely shocking.”

Anyone who witnessed the crash is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or make a confidential report at www.crimestoppersvic.com.au


Wyndham Vale crash: Three children killed, one other injured as car crashes into Melbourne lake

Updated 1 minute ago

A woman is under police guard in hospital after the car she was driving crashed into a lake, killing three children and injuring one other in Melbourne’s west this afternoon.

Emergency services said the car, which had five people in it, plunged into the lake near the intersection of Manor Lakes Boulevard and Pedder Street at Wyndham Vale.

Passersby and police officers jumped into the lake and punched holes through the car’s windows to rescue the people inside and then started giving the children CPR.

One other child was taken to hospital with serious injuries.

Police believe all four children are under the age of six.

The woman who was driving the vehicle was rescued and is under police guard at the Royal Melbourne Hospital. She is in a stable condition.

Superintendent Stuart Bateson said it was unclear what caused the crash.

“All we know at this stage is a female driver has been taken to hospital,” he said.

Superintendent Bateson said it was too early to say if the woman driving the vehicle was the mother of the children.

“What we do know is that when the car [crashed] passersby and police members got some of the children out and did CPR,” he said.

He said police were investigating a “tragic set of circumstances”.

“It’s going to be a really harrowing investigation,” he said.

Aerial pictures from the scene showed a vehicle submerged in water about 10 metres from the lake’s edge.

Dozens of emergency workers attended the scene to treat the injured.

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25 thoughts on “Wyndham Vale crash: Akon Guode, charged with 3 counts of murder and 1 count of attempted murder”

  1. Looking a similar child murder case like the coughing fit mongrel child killer ‘ Robert Farquharson’. ” Why?,” do they have to kill the innocent children, and instead just take their own life. If this woman, has been suffering depression or whatever and at the end of her tether with family or personal problems !… She could of just drove herself into the lake, without the children? They have to punish their children with them in these attempted murder – suicides!…. Such a tragedy for all the other next of kin family members of these murdered children, if it is in fact a attempted murder suicide!… If she was in a domestic violence situation, surely the mother could have sought help somewhere, instead of just drowning her children with her. She survives and the innocent children die. Such a tragic outcome. Now this will cost a fortune on Legal Aid lawyers defending her murder and keeping her locked up and protected in prison for many years to come, just like that evil Robert Farquharson who kept blaming a coughing fit caused him to drive his children onto a dam, and then has the audacity and cheek to keep appealing against his prison sentence as if he was the victim from murdering his children!…!…

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  2. So true I need a vomit bucket after watching the 6 oclock news tonight the do gooders are planning a frigin candle light vigil they shit me, All the hanger onners need to pull their heads in and mind their own business they look like fools they dont even know these people. Ban the candlelight vigil blow the candles out.

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  3. Farquharson a foolish prick to think he would ever be free his lawyer was stringing him along just for the money, if he was let out he wouldnt last the distance anyway. A sharp metal object would do the job Oh hang on the do gooders might have wanted to make him a cup of tea and look into his childhood.

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  4. The do-gooders are saying the car driving into the lake could be an accident. Yeah right, just like Baden Clay not knowing how his depressed wife , was found under Kholo Bridge. The defence will say her foot got stuck on the accelerator and the car git away from her and ended up in the middle of the lake. The CCTV shows the car drive back and forward the road near the lake?
    She must then be just a bad driver then, to suddenly turn sharp and keep driving into the lake.

    I would think also if it was only a freak accident of the car getting away from the panicking Sudanese women driver ,veering straight at speed into the lake, she would have frantically tried to free the drowning children, while all the bystanders had at this stage rushed to the sinking vehicle to free the trapped children.
    I don’t think the vehicle by accident, just got away from her and she couldn’t control it, she seemed to be able to drive the car, up and down the road, no worries.
    The woman was intentionally tying to commit suicide with the kids, that is why she did nothing. and wasn’t frantic during the rescue, to help save any of the kids!… The Sudanese woman could at the very least, dragged the kids out the car doors and put them on to the car roof, which wasn’t submerged, for the ease of the rescuers. That is also why the Homicide Squad is all over this women, now in their custody. All the do-gooder criminal defence lawyers will be tripping over one another to take on her legal case, and find a excuse for here actions. Depression, being a refugee and all the usual bleeding hearts defence!… One thing the lawyers wont be able to use a coughing fit, caused her to drive by accident into the lake like someone else now in jail for murdering his kids!…

    I may be very wrong on my assumptions, so we will just have to wait and see!… Are well that’s another ‘obso cell’ taken in the prison population or another 24 hour suicide protection cell less in the high security cell blocks !… Soon the whole dam, bed and breakfast expensive to run Australian prison system inmates will be on high protection from one another!… The Government will have to buy a shipping container full of more new TV’s for all these new male and female criminals flowing into the jails…

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  5. What is troubling is the extent of injuries to the kids. The car didn’t hit anything and despite entering the water clearly at a speed above the posted limit suffeered virtually no damage.

    The mother/driver also got out largely without injury.

    This begs the question over whether the kids were properly restrained in approved and mandatory baby capsules considering their age or were they just lying on the backseat?

    Also the size of the car and depth of the lake meant it was never going to be submerged so there was no possibility of the kids drowning if they were still strapped in.

    Their injuries were quite severe and out of proportion to the scale and scope of the accident.

    Had the mother attacked them prior to plunging into the lake?

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  6. Its going to be tough on Police to crack this one because this nationality is so tight knit they appear to be quite sympathetic towards the mother they dont show anger. The authorities will probably require an interpretor due to a language barrier sometimes in cases like this the perpertrator guilty or not guilty will use their foreign language as a shield to their advantage. Its either been an unfortunate accident brought about by the mother being unwell, a mechanical fault in the vehicle or it was simply intentional. The crash investigation unit will decide on that as well as the coroner so this could take a considerable amount of time. The problem with these do gooders who are outsiders they get in the way of the reality of the situation.

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  7. I sorry to the Sudanese family on my quick judgements of this, what first was appearing initially to be like a murder- suicide, rather than just a accident. It now appears the police are no longer treating the children’s deaths as suspicious, and the Sudanese women – mother, has medically blacked out and lost control of the vehicle, driving it by accident straight into the lake. Its did however at first seemed somewhat very similar to the other case of deliberate suspicious murder , which the male father – Robert Farquharson, said was caused by a blackout, loss of consciousness and a coughing fit, when he abandoned , three of his children and failed to try and save them from his car after also saying he lost control of his vehicle , which was later proving that he did drive intentionally into a dam, to murder his children from off the main road, back in 2005. If the police have ruled this tragedy out as a accident, then I am sorry, and stand corrected that I over reacted and was quite wrong about these circumstances of the car driving into the lake by an accident !…

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  8. They surely wouldnt have the answer to this for a while there has to be a thorough investigation the police cant just take her word for it my opinion is the media are at fault they manipulate the public into forming the opinions we are lead to believe.

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  9. I await with interest the outcome of this one . Dare I say a very difficult one for the police . If it was a White Anglo person , the Media would be all over it like a pack of dogs . They have gone strangely quiet now.

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  10. Yeah I know, The Sudanese in Melbourne are a very sensitive agenda with Victoria Police since the trouble and disciplinary actions of coppers over the racist -“bottom feeder”- branded coffee mugs that were in circulation and were made for some of Melbourne’s racist Police Officers at a Frankston Police Station . So they are treading carefully with the Sudanese population, much the same as with the Indigenous Corries.
    On a different case, this horrible burning murder of the young lady school teacher by a deranged 24-year-old school cleaner at her school is just terrible. And he has allegedly filmed the murder as well. The murders today are just going from bad to worse . I think its time for a referendum by the ordinary people in the community to vote for the death penalty to be re-introduced, and handed out by the courts, for worst cases of murder and rape , like many of the recent ones. If only to show some kind of deterrence to the pubic wanna be sicko killers at large!… That they will hang for their senseless crimes of violence!… That and zero tolerance – three strikes your out, never to be released from jail!…

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  11. Read this –
    :Stubby holders mocking Sudanese migrants distributed among police in Sunshine in Melbourne’s west.
    :Police Officers charged over racist stubby holders.
    :Vic police suspended for racist incident. http://www.theaustralian.com.au…racist-cops…/story
    :’Racist police’ targeted Africans .
    :Are police racist? A Sudanese view./ A posse in Aussie.
    [PDF] YOUNG SUDANESE MEN EXPERENCES OF RACISM……………………………………………….

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  12. I was fuming when those police officers were suspended those Sudenese instigators had a civil rights lawyer on tax payers money to defend them and belittle the very power of our Australian Police how dare they. The trashy media gave them the right to belittle the Police on TV they come to this country and are given everything even more than a battling family that were born here and they have the cheek to winge about an inhouse joke woah so PRECIOUS those australian do gooders should stop pussy footing around these people like you feel the frigin need what the hells wrong with them gone soft in the brain. Im angry that the Police Force gave in to them Uphold the Right isnt that what they should do. Those bastards must have felt very powerful winning that one. It makes us once again pushovers. I think they are a traffic hazard at night to be honest I cant see them in the dark or when they are driving it looks like theres nobody in the drivers seat its about their safety too. Seriously.

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  13. It is ludicrous to suggest that all Police here are racist and it is only their opinion there is no evidence to support that claim what they need to do is respect our police shut their mouths and appreciate how dam lucky they are to be in this country instead of their own Sudan. They also need to be taught how Australians have a laugh, a joke and not to take things personal thats the way we are get used to it or get out.

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  14. The abo’s and jews are also just as politically correct ,making the white ocker aussie, out to be the racist, by constantly ramming their indigenous values of land rights, sacred site corrie dreamtimes , the original custodians of Australia and so on!… Just look at the rabble protests in Melbourne CBD, a few days back. The Aussie cobber digger is now the second class citizen and minority group and ignored and racially vilified more than any hard done by abo’s or jews!…

    In a public park in my town, its a pig sty, the whining political correct original inhabitants, who are more often than not, stoned and drunken , with a mix of drug and syringe using hangers on, who a about 5% so called full blood black corrie original descendants and custodians of our land. They daily every day mull around the park and drop on the ground all their cigarette butts ,by the hundreds with their discarded empty alcohol containers and syringes and needle fits, and other rubbish. It is a disgrace how they carry on about, land rights and sacred sites and they just trash and litter the very public land they call their own. And their the first to be jumping up and down, for more respect and tribal rights, and demanded more and more of their so labelled sacred land sites. Then their is political correct, hurt to the bone footballer sook Adam Goodes who thinks he is the face of the anti racism agenda and a tribal elder like Burnam Burnam or Albert Namergera.

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  15. Reclaim Aust protesters at fed square expressing their right to form an opinion on what they believe but one thing that stands out they were unfairly being branded as racist. But if the dark skinned were protesting they would be branded as victims. Adam Goodes to me was out of line for targeting that 13 year old girl for calling him an ape she was just a kid for christ sake and security carted her away from her family and put her in a room, not only was the child distressed but she was later brainwashed into writing Adam Goodes a sorry letter thats absolutely absurd. A grown man hurt by a childs words, sticks and stones get over it .If Sam Newman was called a white idiot he wouldnt demand a sorry letter and hit the media but he painted his face on tv made a joke of it and the poor bugger got repremanded too its so one sided its absurd. We have to walk on eggshells all the time and yet some the dark skinned races can be so arrogant, grubby, and rude etc its a joke theres good and bad in all races but we know who act more like they are the victims.

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  16. When there is zero motive then it’s much easier to believe she fainted or fell asleep at the wheel and lost control of the car. Other notable examples of parents who kill their kids Farquharson, Greg Batty, Arthur Freeman, were all taking revenge on their ex-partners. And this woman had seven kids. Why would she target three of her own kids and another one that wasn’t even hers, and leave her other children shattered for the rest of their lives? Until some serious evidence comes to light, best to give this woman the benefit of the doubt.

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  17. The Victoria Police Homicide squad are doing a further investigation on the vehicles possible paths that caused it to end up so far in the lake, with trial un scenario’s . It may have been just accident, a black out, fainted or fell asleep, as the mother claims but something does not add-up, how the vehicle was seen driving up and down the street, then it just ends up where it did. Also lack of reliable witnesses from the tight knit Sudanese community is also making the police investigation somewhat difficult on the real outcome, as to whether it was a freak accident or perhaps a intentional or deliberate murder suicide attempt gone wrong. Forensic evidence and clever police traffic investigation may or may not solve, what really happened. As with the very exhaustive long case as it was with the suspicious Robert Farquharson, driving his children in to the dam, blaming a coughing fit. This case may be more sinister than it in fact appears.
    I personally wonder why the mother driver , did not frantically and desperately try to get the children out of the car ,or at least try or yell out to help her try and rescue the trapped or drowning kids on to the submerged vehicles roof? But as she just left them there for the rescuers to try and save them this in its self is some what strange and suspicious ?… Much the same way as with Farquharson in action, whereby he just left his children to drown in the dam, while he just had a smoke far away from his drowned kids in the dam!…

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  18. Mate if she drove them into the dam, it will come out.

    The problem they are facing is the cultural sensitivities and so on!

    They will take their time to get to the truth of why those precious little kids died.

    I think an arrest is very very likely soon. The big factor like the fathers day one is physics and speed. A new at the scene witness has also proved very valuable info…

    One cant be turning left, right, braking, changing speed in passed out surely and make it all the way to the water?

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  19. Still quiet on this one it would have been interesting to witness the way this woman reacted and why did she get out of that vehicle so quick and not fight tooth and nail to free those injured infants.

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  20. Was shocked she admitted and pleaded to guilt. Maybe was given counsel it is the only way you will ever get out of jail alive in a few decades.The facts pointed to her and her desire to rid herself from her kids was obvious…All the do gooders could not accept and woman could do that blah blah. A father does it and he is a monster, and a mother does it and oh she had this mental illness and whatever. Society seems hard to accept their ARE cold ass bitches out there that will kill their kids to make their own lives better (in their eyes)

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