Wyndham Vale crash: Akon Guode, charged with 3 counts of murder and 1 count of attempted murder


UPDATE 16 Jan 2017

 

Blood-splattered walls, family photos and the tiny stain that blew the case wide open: Graphic photos from inside the Lin family home – after Robert Xie was found guilty of five murders 

  • Robert Xie has been found guilty of murdering five of his wife’s relatives
  • His wife, Kathy Lin, has stood by him and proclaimed his innocence
  • But she sobbed as a NSW Supreme Court jury handed down its verdict
  • Xie cut electricity to the Epping home and systematically killed the five
  • Grisly crime scene photos have emerged from the Lin family home

SOME PEOPLE MAY FIND THE FOLLOWING IMAGES DISTURBING

Grisly crime scene photos have emerged from the Lin family home where Robert Xie murdered five of his wife’s relatives.

Fuelled by resentment and humiliation at his ‘inferior’ status in the Lin family, Robert Xie crept into a Sydney house and bludgeoned five of his wife’s relatives to death.

In horrific detail, a court heard how Xie systematically went about murdering his brother-in-law and wife, their two children and her sister under the cover of night.

The first police images from the Lin home in Epping have emerged with walls and door handles splattered with blood, footprints in the carpet and drops of blood throughout the house.

 A mobile phone charger splattered in blood at the Lin family homeA mobile phone charger splattered in blood at the Lin family home

There was blood on the bedroom door handles and the smeared up the door

The crucial blood stain 91: This blood stain was found in Xie's garage ten months after the murders. It contained four of the five victim's DNAThe crucial blood stain 91: This blood stain was found in Xie’s garage ten months after the murders. It contained four of the five victim’s DNA

The carpet from the main bedroom was treated with chemicals, revealing a clear sneaker footprint which prosecutors claimed were consistent with the shoes Xie woreThe carpet from the main bedroom was treated with chemicals, revealing a clear sneaker footprint which prosecutors claimed were consistent with the shoes Xie wore

Horrific splatters of blood on the wall in the children's bedroom. Investigators believe the two children were awake and moving when they were beaten to deathHorrific splatters of blood on the wall in the children’s bedroom. Investigators believe the two children were awake and moving when they were beaten to death

Pictured is a small bed shaped as a racing car in Min and Lily's room. Their son Terry, 9, would sleep there when he had trouble in his own roomPictured is a small bed shaped as a racing car in Min and Lily’s room. Their son Terry, 9, would sleep there when he had trouble in his own room

This silver coloured Bird brand mobile phone was covered in blood and found under the racing car bedThis silver coloured Bird brand mobile phone was covered in blood and found under the racing car bed

Photos have emerged from the grisly crime scene at the Lin family home in EppingPhotos have emerged from the grisly crime scene at the Lin family home in Epping

The graphic images show the violent murders that took place within the bedrooms as the family were bludgeoned to death.

Images show the dark chemicals used to bring out the footprints of sneakers that were consistent with the shoes Xie wore, according to prosecutors.

One blood stain, labelled ‘Stain 91’, became an integral part of the Crown’s case. It contained four of the five victim’s DNA and was found in Xie’s garage ten months later.

Xie had a perverted sexual fascination with a teenager connected to the family, and would rub himself against her while erect, the murder trial also heard, reported the Daily Telegraph.

Pictured is a blood-stained doorknob at the entrance to Irene Lin's room Pictured is a blood-stained doorknob at the entrance to Irene Lin’s room

The Lin family's sandals were scattered at the base of a staircase leading to the second floorThe Lin family’s sandals were scattered at the base of a staircase leading to the second floor

Like every other house: A view inside the living room and study of the Lin family home on the day of the murdersLike every other house: A view inside the living room and study of the Lin family home on the day of the murders

A photo showing the doorway into bedroom one with an arrow pointing two the light switchA photo showing the doorway into bedroom one with an arrow pointing two the light switch

Pictures is a view of Robert Xie's garage. The photo was taken during a police search

A look inside Robert Xie’s garage: The photos were taken during a police search

More than seven years and four trials later, the 53-year-old is facing life behind bars after a NSW Supreme Court jury on Thursday found him guilty of the five murders.

It took the jury eight days of deliberations after a six month trial, marking Xie one of Australia’s worst mass murders in living history.

Just days after the gruesome murders in 2009, Xie and his wife, Kathy Lin, made an emotional public plea for information to help solve the terrible crimes.

They asked that media not show their faces because of concerns for their own safety.

Robert Xie has been found guilty of brutally murdering five of his wife's relatives in 2009. The court heard he harboured a deep hatred over his 'inferior' status in the extended familyRobert Xie has been found guilty of brutally murdering five of his wife’s relatives in 2009. The court heard he harboured a deep hatred over his ‘inferior’ status in the extended family

VICTIMS: Min Lin, 45, and Lily Lin, 43 were killed after being bludgeoned with a 'hammer-like object' by Robert XieVICTIMS: Min Lin, 45, and Lily Lin, 43 were killed after being bludgeoned with a ‘hammer-like object’ by Robert Xie

 A furious struggle took place in the bedroom of his young nephews Terry (left) and Henry (right) – but both were killed by their sinister uncle

Irene was the fifth member of the family to suffer a horrendous fate at Xie's hands, the jury foundIrene was the fifth member of the family to suffer a horrendous fate at Xie’s hands, the jury found

Xie said he couldn’t imagine any reason why anyone would want to harm the family, describing his dead brother-in-law as a ‘very nice, hard-working, friendly person’.

Xie had pleaded not guilty to murdering the five in their North Epping home.

The former ear, nose and throat specialist, who was arrested in May 2011, faced two aborted trials and a third lasting nine months which resulted in a hung jury.

As the majority verdict was handed down, Xie told the court he did not murder the Lin family.

‘I am innocent,’ he told the jury as he left the court.

His wife Kathy began to cry.

Outside of court, Min Lin’s parents wept in relief after the guilty verdict. ‘We are happy,’ they said to reporters, while holding framed photos of their lost loved ones.

LIN FAMILY HOME: This is the home where Robert Xie killed five members of his wife's familyLIN FAMILY HOME: This is the home where Robert Xie killed five members of his wife’s family

LOCKED AWAY: The latest trial of Lian Bin 'Robert' Xie lasted some five months - the verdict ally coming some seven years after the deaths shocked AustraliaLOCKED AWAY: The latest trial of Lian Bin ‘Robert’ Xie lasted some six months – the verdict finally coming some seven years after the deaths shocked Australia

Outside of court, Min Lin's parents wept in relief after the guilty verdictOutside of court, Min Lin’s parents wept in relief after the guilty verdict

'We're very happy': The pair managed to stutter amidst heavy sobbing as reporters surrounded them outside of NSW Supreme Court‘We’re very happy’: The pair managed to stutter amidst heavy sobbing as reporters surrounded them outside of NSW Supreme Court

 Xie was found to have left their bed in the early hours of July 18, 2009, hours after attending a ‘normal’ Friday night dinner with his extended family.

His wife confirmed his alibi, that he didn’t leave their bed that night, but the Crown suggested Xie sedated her before creeping into the Lin residence around the corner.

TIMELINE OF MURDERS

July 18, 2009: Five members of the Lin family are found dead in their North Epping home

May 5, 2011:  Robert Xie is arrested and charged with five counts of murder

December 19, 2012: Xie is committed to stand trial

July 22, 2013: Trial delayed to March

August, 2014: Second trial begins, but is aborted due to judge’s health issues

February, 2015: Third trial begins, but jury is unable to reach a verdict after ten months

December 8, 2015: Xie is granted bail

June, 2016: Retrial is commenced in Sydney

 January 12, 2017: Xie is found guilty of five murders

Ms Lin lied at times to ‘assist’ her husband, not because she knew he was guilty but because she was convinced he was framed by police, prosecutor Tanya Smith said.

At the Lin house, Xie disconnected the electricity before making his way upstairs in the dark.

He then used a hammer-like object to inflict horrific head injuries on his newsagent brother-in-law, Min Lin, 45, and his wife, Lily, 43, as they lay in their bed.

He did the same to Lily’s sister, Irene, 39, in the next room.

Blood splatters revealed a furious struggle took place in the third bedroom occupied by Xie’s nephews.

But Henry, 12, and Terry, 9, still suffered the same shocking fate in the North Epping home.

‘This was a well-planned crime of a personal nature, by a single person who has carefully improvised a murder weapon,’ Ms Smith said.

Kathy Lin, the wife of Robert, has supported her husband for years and proclaimed his innocence. On Thursday, he was found guilty of killing her familyKathy Lin, the wife of Robert, has supported her husband for years and proclaimed his innocence. On Thursday, he was found guilty of killing her family

Forensic specialists are pictured at the North Epping home where all five of the bodies were found in 2009. The court heard that Xie cut the electricity before entering the houseForensic specialists are pictured at the North Epping home where all five of the bodies were found in 2009. The court heard that Xie cut the electricity before entering the house

Xie believed he was entitled to respect and admiration within the extended family, but felt he was denied this because of the uncritical and misplaced high regard given to Min Lin.

‘The Crown case is that this perception evoked intense emotions on his part, including anger and resentment.’

The Crown also contended that Xie had a sexual motive, details of which cannot be published for legal reasons.

Four of the victims died from the combined effects of blunt force trauma and asphyxia, involving injuries indicative of neck compression.

The Crown cited Xie’s medical skills, while Witness A, who was in jail with Xie, said Xie showed him a particular location on the neck, which was incapacitating.

Xie had a perverted sexual fascination with a teenager connected to the family, and would rub himself against her while erect, the murder trial also heardXie had a perverted sexual fascination with a teenager connected to the family, and would rub himself against her while erect, the murder trial also heard

Horrifically murdered: Xie's Chinese-born brother-in-law Norman Lin and Lin's wife Lily (both pictured) were killedHorrifically murdered: Xie’s Chinese-born brother-in-law Norman Lin and Lin’s wife Lily (both pictured) were killed

Witness A also testified to seeing Xie, who always appeared calm in the dock, screaming at an elderly inmate who was using a walking frame.

‘The whole (exercise) yard stopped,’ he said.

‘It was like zero to 100.

Defence barrister Robert Webb had argued the ‘highly organised’ and brutal execution involved multiple assailants, also contending that Xie got on well with his relatives.

He particularly loved his nephew Henry whom he treated like a son.

But the Crown said the boys and Irene were ‘collateral damage’ or secondary victims who may have woken up when the adults were being murdered.

‘The Crown case is that he came to kill Min and Lily and was prepared to kill others should the need arise.’

What the jury heard in the trial

WHAT THE CROWN SAID:

* One person murdered the Lin family at their North Epping home in Sydney, in the early hours of July 18, 2009

* Xie sedated his wife before leaving their bed and creeping into the Lin residence, 300 metres away

* Xie knew the location of the Lin’s outside power box to enable the electricity to be turned off

* Xie had access to a key and knew the layout of the Lin house

* Bloodied shoe prints in the Lin home were consistent with Asics sneakers Xie wore

* On May 6, 2010, Xie cuts up shoe boxes, showing ‘consciousness of guilt’

* Small ‘bloodstain’ – dubbed Stain 91 – on Xie’s garage floor ‘most likely’ contains DNA of four Lin family victims

* Partly motivated by his perceived ‘inferior’ status in the Lin family – supported by evidence of Witness A, an inmate who recorded Xie speaking disparagingly of Min Lin

WHAT THE DEFENCE SAID:

* It wasn’t one person in the dark

* Improbable all five victims could be controlled by one person; crime scene suggests more than one assailant

* Xie’s wife Kathy Lin confirms his alibi of being asleep with her at the time of the murders

* Disputes DNA evidence and the Crown’s assertion stain on Xie’s garage floor is blood

* No evidence showing Xie motivated to harm the Lin family

* Xie got on well with Lin family and was particularly close to nephew Henry

* He cut up the shoe boxes as he feared police would falsely implicate him in the murders

* Conversations with Witness A were ‘nothing more than jail talk’

* Denies Crown’s suggestion of a sexual motive, details of which cannot be published.


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Mother pleads guilty to murdering three children in lake crash

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Submerged four wheel drive in a lake at Wyndham Vale in 2015

Mon 16 Jan 2017, 12:35pm

A mother has pleaded guilty to murdering three of her seven children, and trying to kill a fourth, by driving into a lake at Wyndham Vale in Melbourne’s south-west.

Akon Guode, 37, showed little emotion as she pleaded guilty to murdering her one-year-old son Bol and four-year-old twins, Hanger and Madit, and attempting to murder her five-year-old daughter Alual in 2015.

The mother’s plea in the Victorian Supreme Court came at a mention hearing before she was due to stand trial.

As the charges were read to her, through the help of an interpreter, the only words she said were “guilty” to each charge.

Passersby and emergency services frantically tried to help Guode and her children after her car plunged deep into Lake Gladman at Wyndham Vale.

Alual survived after being pulled from the water and sent to hospital.

A police statement publicly released in July last year alleged Guode spoke about killing herself and her children on the day of the tragedy.

A court hearing was previously told she drove by a lake at Wyndham Vale five times before “deliberately and consciously” driving into the water.

Guode’s eldest daughter had testified that her mother had dizzy spells six months before she drove into the lake.

Guode came to Australia from South Sudan to escape war after her first husband died.

She had been having a long affair with the father of the children involved in the incident, Joseph Manyang.

Mr Manyang separated from his wife after Hanger and Madit were born and the affair became public, but lived separately from Guode and her children.

The court was earlier told Guode became too frightened to interact with the Sudanese community.

Mr Manyang described Guode as a caring and loving mother.

During a court hearing Guode collapsed and wailed as a harrowing triple-0 call from the incident was played in court.

Following the deaths of the children there was an outpouring of grief from the local Sudanese community.

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Children die, others critical in car lake plunge at Wyndham Vale

A SUDANESE MOTHER of seven was driving the car that ploughed into a Melbourne lake killing a baby, young twins and critically injuring a third child.

UPDATE 08/12/15

Police allege she drove by the lake five agonising times before driving into it, with witnesses describing seeing a woman slumped over the wheel as her children ran wild in the back seat.

heraldsun.com.au

Mum watched kids drown: police claim

Akon Guode, centre, is comforted by family and friends at a memorial for her children. Picture: Ian Currie

A MOTHER accused of killing her three children by driving them into a lake stood by and watched them die, court documents reveal.

Court documents released tonight reveal a witness saw Akon Guode accelerate further into a Wyndham vale lake after landing in shallow water.

Ms Guode, 36, is charged with three counts of murder and one count of attempted murder.

For at least two hours earlier, she did laps of the lake’s entry point, police allege.

She cried and begged Magistrate Carolene Gwynn to set her free today despite her lawyers failing to make any application for bail.

Police allege she drove by the lake five agonising times before driving into it, with witnesses describing seeing a woman slumped over the wheel as her children ran wild in the back seat.

PREVIOUSLY: THREE MURDER CHARGES OVER LAKE TRAGEDY

Cameras allegedly catch her pull over before driving out of view into the lake.

One witness told police he called 000 but was not overly concerned because the car was not far enough into the lake.

“The accused upon entry into the water has then accelerated the vehicle, causing the wheels to spin and provide sufficient motion to advance into the lake to the middle,” the documents state.

A group watches as police divers prepare to remove Akon Guode’s car after it plunged into a lake in Wyndham Vale. Picture: Mark Stewart
Joseph Tito Manyang, the father of the three children killed in a Wyndam Vale lake. Picture: Tracey Nearmy/AAP

The witness claims she drove another 20 metres into the lake from where he first saw her land.

As one of her children tried to swim to shore, Ms Guode was “screaming but standing, doing nothing not panicked”, the witness claimed.

Police claim all of the children somehow managed to escape out of the open driver’s side window, where Ms Guode stood and watched them drown.

Firefighters claimed they watched Ms Guode stand silently before dunking herself in the water.

One girl, six-year-old Aluel, was rescued and survived.

Once safe, Ms Guode allegedly told desperate emergency workers only three of her kids were in the car.

In the five minutes it took her to mention her fourth, the child was dead.

Court documents allege Ms Gouda drove around the lake in Wyndhamvale for two-and-a-half hours before the fatal incident.

Akon Guode with crash survivor Aluel as a baby.

Police allege the mother of seven was struggling at the time with her children and gossip within the Sudanese community about her affair with the father of four of her children.

Court documents allege Ms Guode became the mistress of her dead husband’s cousin Joseph Manyang in 2008, bearing his child behind his then wife’s back.

When the relationship was discovered, it was shunned by her local community until the day of the tragedy in April this year.

“This caused considerable ongoing unhappiness for the accused,” the documents allege.

Ms Guode went on to have three more children with Mr Manyang, who separated with his wife in early 2011.

On the day the children died, rumours circulating within the Sudanese community was that Mr Manyang would leave Ms Guode to return to his wife.

Up until then, the alleged killer had been hoping to move to Morwell to be closer to family and Mr Manyang, who lived in the area.

Police allege she was also under considerable financial pressure.

At the court hearing Ms Guode cried and begged Magistrate Carolene Gwynn to set her free despite her lawyers failing to make any application for bail.

Speaking through an interpreter, Ms Guode, told the court she wanted to go home.

“I’m feeling emotional,” she said before bursting into tears.

“I (will) go back home. I (will) not escape…everything you tell me to do, I’ll do. I won’t go anywhere.”

She will return to court in June.

wayne.flower@news.com.au


The car was up to 30m from the lake’s shore. Picture: Jake Nowakowski

The car was up to 30m from the lake’s shore. Picture: Jake Nowakowski

  • Three children have died and two others are critically hurt
  • A woman was also in the car and is in under police guard in hospital
  • The crash happened at a lake off Manor Boulevard, Wyndham Vale at 3.40pm
  • All four children are believed to be aged under six
  • A neighbour smashed the rear windscreen to rescue the children

POLICE have confirmed a third child has died after their car plunged into a lake at Wyndham Vale this afternoon.

The car was found in the lake off Manor Lakes Boulevard, near Pedder Street, at 3.40pm.

The female driver is under police guard in Royal Melbourne Hospital.

Police believe all four children were under six years of age.

The car is about 20 to 30 metres from the shore.

An emotional Superintendent Stuart Bateson said “we don’t know why, we don’t know how” the car entered lake, about 38km west of Melbourne’s CBD.

He said it was “too early” to tell whether the female driver was the mother of all four children.

“All we know at this stage is a female driver has been taken to hospital and we have two deceased children,” he said.

ANYONE WHO WITNESSED THE CRASH IS URGED TO CONTACT CRIME STOPPERS ON 1800 333 000

“We have another two children that have been flown to hospital in a serious condition.

“What we do know is that when the car left (the road) passers by and police members got some of the children out and did CPR.

“Unfortunately two of the children passed away.”

Lake tragedy
 Detectives from the Major Collision Investigation Unit are at the scene.

They will try to piece together the exact cause of the crash, determining how fast the car was travelling, whether the car braked or swerved and other factors like road conditions.

The Search and Rescue squad is also attending the scene and will retrieve the vehicle from the water.

Tests can then be conducted on the car to make sure there are no mechanical faults or defects.

Superintendent Bateson said police were unsure whether the car was driving erratically before entering the lake.

Authorities at the scene. Picture: Jake Nowakowski

Authorities at the scene. Picture: Jake Nowakowski

“It is pretty early in our investigation,” he said.

“What we do know is that we have a very tragic set of circumstances here and it is going to be a very harrowing investigation.”

He said “everyone”, including police, had been affected by the tragic scene.

“When you come to a scene like this and my members in particular, who have been performing CPR for an extended period of time, are really feeling it,” he said.

“It is tough for everyone involved.”

The location of this afternoon’s tragic incident. Image: Google Maps

The location of this afternoon’s tragic incident. Image: Google Maps

The Superintendent said nearby SES and CFA members helped at the scene, as community members jumped into the lake in an attempt to rescue the children.

Resident Michelle told 3AW her neighbour Travis had to smash the car’s back windscreen to rescue the children.

“It’s just a horrible scene.” she said.

“Travis jumped into the water, smashed the back screen of the car and got one little boy out,” she said.

“Then they started working on him.”

Crying, she added: “It’s so very hard to talk about when there are children involved.”

Michelle said the car was travelling along Manor Lakes Boulevard and “but just went straight over into the lake.”

She said: “I’m not sure if it was speeding or what happened.”

Resident Kate Slee, who lives opposite where the crash occurred, said the park was normally a “pretty place” popular among families.

“I am devastated because I’ve got two kids of my own,’’ she said.

Stacie Buckley, also nearby, said: “It’s terrible. It’s a complete shock knowing it’s so close to home. I’ve got kids myself so anything involving kids is just awful.”

“You would never think something like this would happen in that particular spot. The ponds are retty far back from the road. It’s just completely shocking.”

Anyone who witnessed the crash is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or make a confidential report at www.crimestoppersvic.com.au


Wyndham Vale crash: Three children killed, one other injured as car crashes into Melbourne lake

Updated 1 minute ago

A woman is under police guard in hospital after the car she was driving crashed into a lake, killing three children and injuring one other in Melbourne’s west this afternoon.

Emergency services said the car, which had five people in it, plunged into the lake near the intersection of Manor Lakes Boulevard and Pedder Street at Wyndham Vale.

Passersby and police officers jumped into the lake and punched holes through the car’s windows to rescue the people inside and then started giving the children CPR.

One other child was taken to hospital with serious injuries.

Police believe all four children are under the age of six.

The woman who was driving the vehicle was rescued and is under police guard at the Royal Melbourne Hospital. She is in a stable condition.

Superintendent Stuart Bateson said it was unclear what caused the crash.

“All we know at this stage is a female driver has been taken to hospital,” he said.

Superintendent Bateson said it was too early to say if the woman driving the vehicle was the mother of the children.

“What we do know is that when the car [crashed] passersby and police members got some of the children out and did CPR,” he said.

He said police were investigating a “tragic set of circumstances”.

“It’s going to be a really harrowing investigation,” he said.

Aerial pictures from the scene showed a vehicle submerged in water about 10 metres from the lake’s edge.

Dozens of emergency workers attended the scene to treat the injured.

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Rioting Sudanese gangs…No excuses

Ok lets get one thing straight…THIS is not a raciest story, merely a story where a race is waging some sort of violent rampage/payback over the last week.

Know I do not know if this started purely at a beauty pageant for the Sudanese beauties in our community or not. But to me personally, it stinks of some sort of drunken jealousy gone wrong…

The authorities need to nip this in the bud VERY VERY quickly or many will suffer at the drunken stupidity of a few…

Venues will refuse bookings, Community grants and or assistance denied, community support will plummet, not to mention the cops getting tough and enacting zero tolerance at venues where they once showed some diplomacy

Alcohol has been raised as a reason but who cares? Nip it in the bud now or every honest law abiding Sudanese male will forever be tarnished with the brush of these drunken hooligans…If they prefer we can arrange to take them back to where they came, and what a mistake that would be for humanity


Ok lets get one thing straight…THIS is not a raciest story, merely a story where a race is waging some sort of violent rampage/payback over the last week.

Know I do not know if this started purely at a beauty pageant for the Sudanese beauties in our community or not. But to me personally, it stinks of some sort of drunken jealousy gone wrong…

The authorities need to nip this in the bud VERY VERY quickly or many will suffer at the drunken stupidity of a few…

Venues will refuse bookings, Community grants and or assistance denied, community support will plummet, not to mention the cops getting tough and enacting zero tolerance at venues where they once showed some diplomacy

Alcohol has been raised as a reason but who cares? Nip it in the bud now or every honest law abiding Sudanese male will forever be tarnished with the brush of these drunken hooligans…If they prefer we can arrange to take them back to where they came, and what a mistake that would be for humanity

UPDATE 2.49pm: PREMIER Ted Baillieu has called on local Sudanese leaders to start showing some leadership.

Dobuol Nyuon was attacked during a brawl at an after-party for a Miss South Sudan event


After three nights of violence across Melbourne involving young Sudanese thugs, Mr Baillieu warned the offenders would face the full force of the law.

The Premier said he was concerned and saddened by the events.

He talked to Sudanese leaders today about the problems and is planning further discussions.

“Anybody who breaks the law will be dealt with by the law, but we do have to recognise there are some problems in some communities that need to be addressed,” he said.

“What we need is young local leaders in all these communities stepping up to the plate.”

Mr Baillieu admitted problems with racism could be undermining Victoria’s approach to migrants and multiculturalism.

Three people were injured last night after reportedly being hit by bottles during a brawl in the carpark of Daisey’s Hotel, Ringwood, about 10.30pm.

Police were called after reports of a large group of Sudanese men fighting.

It’s believed up to 30 men could have been involved in the brawl, in which three people suffered head and leg injuries.

The latest incident comes after a man was stabbed and others injured at a “kickback party” for the beauty pageant in the early hours of Monday morning.

Then yesterday a policeman was hit in the face with a stubby and another punched when an unruly mob descended on them in Braybrook, in Melbourne’s west.

‘Sue’, whose policeman partner needed stitches in the head after he was hit with a bottle while trying to break up the Braybrook brawl said a crackdown on violent thugs was needed.

She said her partner also attended the brawl in Ringwood this morning.

‘Sue’ said she welcomed changes to immigration law which mean asylum seekers convicted of a crime while in detention would almost certainly be deported.

“I think we do need to take a tougher stand,’’ she told 3AW.

“Yes they’ve had a hard upbringing, yes they’ve been through a lot where they’ve come from but you really have to leave it at the door to make a fresh start.

“If they bring it (violence) with them how can we be a better country? We’re going to end up exactly the same.’’

Sue said the recent brawls by members of the Sudanese community were terrible.

“It’s been an issue for months and months and months it’s just that it’s been on such a large scale over this weekend that it’s sort of really been brought to a head,’’ she told 3AW.

“When you’ve got hundreds of people you could get every police officer in Melbourne and they wouldn’t stand a chance.

“Unfortunately it’s becoming really scary out there.’’

Police are looking for any links between the three brawls.

Police Deputy Commissioner Sir Ken Jones this morning said he was “open to discussion” about police keeping specific statistics on crimes involving the Sudanese community.

Sir Ken said police had previously collected statistics about crimes against Indian students.

Police keep some statistics documenting offenders’ country of birth, but Sudan is not currently listed as a stand alone category.

“We do collect some statistics which give us an indication about racial make up,” Sir Ken said.

“I think there is some pretty impressive data within Victorian Government databases. I have seen it on Victorian Government indices and there is some good data Commonwealth-wise. Whether we need to replicate that at police level is open to discussion.”

He couldn’t say if there was a higher offending rate among the Sudanese community compared with other nationalities.

Former police chief Christine Nixon said in 2007 that Sudanese people represented only one per cent of criminals dealt with by the force.

Sir Ken said migrants who fled war-torn countries like Sudan often didn’t know anything but violence.

“I think, broadly speaking, you can have difficulties with migrant groups as they adapt to the laws of the country that are hosting them and that can take some time but usually government will step in, local government committees to make sure that transition is as smooth as possible and clearly that’s been an issue for some groups coming into any major city, including Melbourne,” he said on 3AW.

Sir Ken said he didn’t think the recent violence involving the Sudanese community was linked to racism.

“I’m afraid there is racism in every society,” he said.

“This isn’t about racism. This is about groups getting out of hand over a pageant, over a party confronting our cops. It’s a very, very nasty incident and the law will be enforced. People need a lot of help to assimilate and integrate.”

In last night’s incident, a 20-year-old South Australian man was reportedly hit with a bottle during the clash.

He suffered head injuries and cuts to his legs and hand.

Shortly afterwards at Ringwood Lake, police found a Bayswater man, 20, with cuts to his upper body and a Balwyn man, 19, with head injuries and bleeding to his leg.

The Balwyn man was taken to Maroondah Hospital in a non-life-threatening condition.

Most of the men involved in the clash were perceived to be of African appearance.

Police said they all appeared to be intoxicated and were being uncooperative.

Maroondah CIU detectives have not established a motive for the brawl.

No arrests have been made.

Police believe at least six people in the brawl were from interstate.

It’s believed they had been in Victoria for the Miss South Sudan Australia beauty pageant last weekend.

A trail of blood in the hotel’s carpark appears to lead to a car, with spots of blood on the ground around it.

The silver Holden Commodore’s tyres are flat and its registration has been removed.

A spokesman for ALH group, which owns and operates Daisey’s Hotel, David Curry, said the men had not been at the venue before the stoush.

He said the hotel would assist police with their investigation in any way it could.

Police are investigating whether the brawls are linked.

Beauty pageant winner Nyakor Tut has called on the state government to help engage Sudanese youth in the wider community in an effort to quell violence.

Anyone with information about the brawl is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.